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Rob de Santos

Of all of the commentators used by the AFL over the years as "hosts" or guides on the international highlights, Quartermain remains the most popular. He had the gig in the late 80's and early 90's, when he was just starting out. Over a decade after he left the program, he still led our survey last year. Having heard him much more recently, it's clear he is best at roles such as hosting and not at "play by play".

Snr Nubi

Why is it that the 'better' commentators are on the radio & they seem to say less overall during the call, with far less hyperbowl. Even Dennis Commetti is getting to me these days, with the 'centremetre perfect' references....enough already boys & call the footy. To close, the other 'blight' (not No 15) is the absolute lack of criticism of the umpiring by these so called expert commentators. For fear of losing their gigs they continue to call games, without any reference to the most absurd decisions made by the Scott Neville's....

Rob Schaap

All of this being importantly and manifestly true, I can but congratulate you, Tone. Oz does the best race-calling because it allowed the house style to rise from how Strines actually communicate, I reckon. If we no longer have the confidence to look to ourselves for guidance, we should at least content ourselves with emulating who does the job best. And that's the Beeb. The unfortunate departures from either of these sensible approaches may, I submit, be sheeted home to Packer: (a) #9 set the trend by bringing to sport what it had brought to news (ie. narrator as star); (b) assuming a former chempyen at the game could parlay that into chempyen calls (afaik, not a single senior Beeb commentator was a star at actually playing the sport they call - they're just chempyen broadcasters); (c) assuming the viewer hasn't the wit to match their emotions to what they see, and is incapable of engagement without the guiding shrieks of a 'commentator's' affected apoplexy.

Tony.T

Pretty fair take on Quarters, Rob. He does a good job of presenting, but I don't think he's the go for calling the game. Channel 10 obviously feel the same way. He's been made the presenter for this year's grand final, and replaced as called for the GF by Tim Lane. Rightly so. Lane, Hudson & Walls are doing the big game. Sounds good to me.

Nubie, I think one of the errors regularly made by us shlubs out here in listener land is to mistake TV calling and rayjo calling. They're two different beasties. DC can do both, but I agree with you, his commentating seems to be taking on a life all it's own. It's about now he needs to sit back, have a listen to himself on tape, and make a judgement as to whether he needs to cut back on the colour and concentrate more on the nuts and bolts of the call. Namely who's got the agate, and what's happening with it. Somehow though, I think this has been accentuated by Channel Nine's fixation with personality commentators. They're probably in his ear talking up the colour. And the Fox boys were appalling on Sunday whan they completely ignored some of the worse examples of umpiring ineptitude in Adelaide.

All very true, Rob. Spot on about Nine and their personalities. And about the Beeb blokes not playing the game. I always say "You don't need to be a chicken to know a rotten egg". This applies to Nine who seem to be fixated with ex-players as ex-perts. But lets face it, there are very few good commentators among their stable of players. Ritchie and Ian Healy are the best at Nine, but judging by the lifetime pass Big K's given Bill Lawry, Tony Grieg and to a lesser extent, Tubbs and Chappelli, they don't care about commentatory expertise. It's enough for the on-air people to keep TELLING us how good their coverage is. Now we're being dished up Simon O'Donnell. If that's not a salient an example of where Channel Nine are heading (down-market), then I'm John Arlott.

For the record, my ideal Nine TV (I'm excluding radio peoples and picking from roughly the same pool) cricket team would be built around Ritchie, Healy, Dennis Commeti is a fantastic cricket caller and David Gower should be groomed as the new Ritchie.

PS: "affected apoplexy". Like it. Exactly right.

Adam 1.0

Quarters is much better on the radio - same with Brian Taylor. They just let rip on there instead of putting the throttle on for television audiences and coming across at 75%.

Tony.T

Quarters IS ok on rayjo, unfortunately he's paired with the MMM B-Team of Hutchy, who has a bad voice and Paul Salmon, who has a bad everything.

BT has a good sense of humour but has a bad voice for the caper. And when it gets exciting, well, you may as well turn it off. BT becomes unintelligable in his screeching.

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