Comments on THIRD TEST: THE MCGTypePad2018-12-27T00:38:59ZTony Teahttps://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/cricket/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/cricket/2018/12/third-test-the-mcg/comments/atom.xml/Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ab6aa6200d2019-01-02T23:20:28Z2019-01-02T23:20:28ZTony TeaInteresting that Tubby thinks "talk about the Big Bash League hindering our progress is an easy throwaway line" and not...<p>Interesting that Tubby thinks "talk about the Big Bash League hindering our progress is an easy throwaway line" and not a topic which requires solid investigation. And his subsequent remark that "The view that players cannot be picked because they're playing in the BBL does not stand up to scrutiny" is straw man. The main debate is much less whether the Big Bash prevents players being picked for a concurrent Test match, and much more whether the Big Bash as a whole concept is deleterious to Test match grooming.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3cb139c200b2019-01-02T22:37:33Z2019-01-02T22:37:33ZPatard“Burns is hardly the next superstar of world cricket, but in their current predicament, Australia can’t afford to ignore proven...<p><i>“Burns is hardly the next superstar of world cricket, but in their current predicament, Australia can’t afford to ignore proven and highly functional Test-level players like him in the hunt for a silver bullet that might not exist,” Horne wrote.</i></p>
<p>EXACTLY</p>
<p>They need to stop with the lies and notions of themselves as alchemical tier cricket wizards and just select on form and longterm 1st class stats.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3cb109a200b2019-01-02T22:27:43Z2019-01-02T22:27:43ZPatardCouldn't read your link, Tones, as I'm not a subscriber to any form of MSM. But, this looks to be...<p>Couldn't read your link, Tones, as I'm not a subscriber to any form of MSM. But, this looks to be similar: <a href="https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-vs-india-joe-burns-and-co-snubbed-for-test-recall/news-story/2d061dc9bf871ebcd533c743f54ad737" rel="nofollow">Australia vs India | Joe Burns and co. snubbed for Test recall</a>:</p>
<p>Good article and concur. </p>
<p><i>Fans sat in bewilderment as Tim Paine announced the immediate call-up of the 24-year-old, who bowls part-time leg spin, an hour after going down 2-1 in Melbourne.</i></p>
<p><i>Justin Langer followed that by claiming selectors had a headache because “most of the batsmen knocking on the door are averaging in the 30s”.</i></p>
<p>Most? And some others knocking on the door are averaging in the high 40s, and an other at 63?</p>
<p>Maybe Langer is referring to Doolan, another of the sainted class, who is averaging 38.41 this season with an overall 1st class average of 33.79? </p>
<p><i>Langer said Finch was “great in the team” after Australia’s Boxing Day defeat...</i> New measures of greatness?</p>
<p>One thing though, not even this article which clearly points out the lies being fed to the cricketing public has mentioned Kurtis Patterson. Is there something about Patterson we aren't being told? Something wrong with his "technique"?</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ab5732200d2019-01-02T21:25:28Z2019-01-02T21:25:28ZPatardOn the subject of Test technique what would Oz cricket cognoscenti have done with the likes of Bumrah and his...<p>On the subject of Test technique what would Oz cricket cognoscenti have done with the likes of Bumrah and his bowling technique?</p>
<p>Taken him on more beach summer holidays on the NSW north coast when he was a little boy?</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad385566a200c2019-01-02T21:21:29Z2019-01-02T21:21:29ZPatardThe first Fake News of 2019 Australia to pull SCG Test shock with Labuschagne set to be new No.3 A...<p>The first Fake News of 2019 <a href="https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-to-pull-scg-test-shock-with-labuschagne-set-to-be-new-no-3-20190102-p50p9d.html" rel="nofollow">Australia to pull SCG Test shock with Labuschagne set to be new No.3</a></p>
<p><i>A first-class average of 33 suggests Labuschagne is very much a speculative pick by selectors but at age 24 he is young enough for them to take a leap of faith upon at a time when there are no standout candidates emerging from the Sheffield Shield.</i></p>
<p>There are 13 players all currently averaging in the low to high 40s, some 50 and above, and most with high 30s or 40s 1st class averages. They are:</p>
<p>Count Name Age Matches Innings 2018/2019 Bat Avge 1st Class Tests<br />
3 Matthew Wade 31 6 12 63.44 39.57 28.58<br />
2 Marcus Harris 26 5 8 71.57 35.49 35.5<br />
4 Michael Neser 28 5 8 52 26.45 n/a<br />
5 KR Patterson 25 6 11 47.55 41 n/a<br />
6 JA Burns 29 6 12 47.2 40.58 36.76<br />
7 DP Hughes 30 6 11 46.2 39.76 n/a<br />
1 Jake Lehmann 26 6 11 46.1 39.62 n/a<br />
8 TLW Cooper 32 6 11 45.54 34.37 n/a<br />
9 PSP Handscomb 27 5 8 45.12 38.65 39<br />
10 MP Stoinis 29 4 7 42.57 33.61 n/a<br />
11 GJ Maxwell 30 2 4 42 41.1 26.07<br />
12 CL White 35 5 8 41.85 40.38 29.2<br />
13 MC Henriques 32 6 10 41.2 34.49 23.42</p>
<p>For some reason, that Andrew Wu & Tom Decent won't explain, these batsmen are not considered "standout candidates emerging from the Sheffield Shield".</p>
<p>Note: not only does Labuschagne have, as noted, "A first-class average of 33" but he is also currently averaging BELOW that average at 28.22 in the Shield. Yet Labuschagne has emerged as the standout candidate to not only get into the Test side as a batsman but now at #3! Un-fucking-believable. </p>
<p>What would be great reading is an article explaining what it is about this list of batsmen that causes the entire cricketing cognoscenti to have amnesia when it comes to Shield stats and pretend that there isn't anyone averaging in the 40s or above.</p>
<p>Tubby offers a possible clue <a href="https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/mark-taylor-the-four-batsmen-i-have-locked-in-for-ashes-20190102-p50p8t.html" rel="nofollow">Mark Taylor: The four batsmen I have locked in for Ashes</a></p>
<p><br />
<i>Our players have had six Sheffield Shield games from October to December to impress selectors. That's up to 12 innings for batsmen to build confidence, score centuries and show they are deserving of selection.</i></p>
<p><i>What difference will another round of matches make? If I'm a selector, I already have a considerable body of evidence to dissect.</i></p>
<p>Tubby's about to go to the list of Shield batsmen averaging in the 40s or above!</p>
<p><i>The central issue in discussions will be how they handle Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft.</i></p>
<p>Oh...he didn't.</p>
<p>But, Tubby does offer this clue as to why he and the rest pretend that there is a dearth of batting talent:</p>
<p><i>To rub our noses in the dirt even more, Agarwal is their fourth opener in line, behind KL Rahul, Murali Vijay and Privthi Shaw. He had the technique which would produce Test runs.</i></p>
<p><i>That's what we have to get back to in Australian cricket.</i></p>
<p>That old go-to catch-all term to explain away why you refuse to select players consistently proving themselves but are outside the inner-sanctum of suckholery required for Australia national selection: "technique".</p>
<p>It's a vague term and hard to define but here's an example of good Test level technique:</p>
<p><i>"More than most, I want Mitch Marsh to succeed – I've known him since he was little boy."</i></p>
<p>What Patterson, Burns, Wade and co need to succeed at Test level is the technique that ensures they endure long into the memory of Tubby and assorted elite cricketing-cognoscenti with memories of them on family holidays when they were boys.</p>
<p>Obviously Labuschagne must have laid down the required Test technique by ensuring there is sufficient memories of him playing in the surf as a boy for all the selectors and media cohort as it's absolutely inexplicable the amount of lies being shoved into the faces of the Oz cricket fan this summer.</p>
<p>Oz media...get. fucked.<br />
</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3cadb1c200b2019-01-02T04:36:16Z2019-01-02T04:36:16ZI am Not TrampisWhat was James Anderson wanting for Christmas? The Marshes in our team hopefully for 3 and 4<p>What was James Anderson wanting for Christmas? The Marshes in our team hopefully for 3 and 4</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3852768200c2019-01-02T03:48:01Z2019-01-02T03:48:01ZI am Not TrampisCan I congratulate the Selectors. We are now in a splendid position to win the Ashes. would it not be...<p>Can I congratulate the Selectors.</p>
<p>We are now in a splendid position to win the Ashes. </p>
<p>would it not be ironic is the Three Lankans swing the ball around at night in Brizvegas and we lose there.</p>
<p>I'm sure this would be all part of a masterplan</p>I an Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3cad825200b2019-01-02T03:35:42Z2019-01-02T03:35:42ZI an Not Trampishmm, batting Sharma and Ashwin out. Me thinks they will stick with the DoubleJayrock and the Viharo dsert to do...<p>hmm, batting Sharma and Ashwin out.</p>
<p>Me thinks they will stick with the DoubleJayrock and the Viharo dsert to do their spinning.</p>
<p>Qw swttle for another 'Marsh allrounder'</p>
<p>A Marsh allrounder is a player who bats with a bowling average and bowls with a batting average.</p>
<p>I am in for a comments of doom.</p>
<p>how about Yuze</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3851bbb200c2019-01-01T23:12:01Z2019-01-01T23:12:01ZTony TeaHere is an article on the batsmen who should be in the frame.<p><a href="https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-matthew-wade-and-joe-burns-not-the-blokes-selectors-want/news-story/fe2bebff4691e53e565fe8890b35d3bc" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is an article on the batsmen who should be in the frame.</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aafb8e200d2019-01-01T08:53:25Z2019-01-01T08:53:25ZPhilsgonewhere there's life, there's comment<p>where there's life, there's comment</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384f7b3200c2019-01-01T08:03:10Z2019-01-01T08:03:10ZTony TeaIncidentally, we haven't clocked 100 comments for ages. The Melbs and Syds Tests have always been good for biz.<p>Incidentally, we haven't clocked 100 comments for ages. The Melbs and Syds Tests have always been good for biz.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384f69c200c2019-01-01T07:15:58Z2019-01-01T07:15:58ZTony TeaRelevance deprivation syndrome is a mind altering drug.<p>Relevance deprivation syndrome is a mind altering drug.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384ef5e200c2019-01-01T02:59:38Z2019-01-01T02:59:38ZPatardSteve Waugh is off his rocker: https://twitter.com/SGanguly99/status/1079660357990432768 That would have to be the worst line up ever. Smarsh opening and...<p>Steve Waugh is off his rocker: <a href="https://twitter.com/SGanguly99/status/1079660357990432768" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/SGanguly99/status/1079660357990432768</a> </p>
<p>That would have to be the worst line up ever. Smarsh opening and Mitch at 7 ffs,</p>
<p>What is wrong with these old has beens? Is it ego that makes them refuse to promote those with the averages deserving selection? Do they fear being outdone?</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca6d2b200b2018-12-31T05:39:24Z2018-12-31T05:39:24ZI am Not Trampisfor my millions of fans it appeared my first two moments did not appear. I thought Tonee had turned into...<p>for my millions of fans it appeared my first two moments did not appear. I thought Tonee had turned into Sinkers but when my third comment appeared I knew this was not the case.<br />
Then by a miracle my first comments appeared as if by magic</p>
<p>I can repeat myself anyway since I am well over 60 </p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aac1c6200d2018-12-31T05:25:32Z2018-12-31T05:25:32ZI am Not TrampisIt appears not. That is strange. Saker has done little since 2005. If I can work out what is wrong...<p>It appears not. That is strange.<br />
Saker has done little since 2005.</p>
<p>If I can work out what is wrong with Saker and I only have a level 2 coaching certificate why can't he?</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca6c7a200b2018-12-31T05:23:37Z2018-12-31T05:23:37ZI am Not TrampisIt appears I have been Marshed.<p>It appears I have been Marshed.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384bcd0200c2018-12-31T05:13:36Z2018-12-31T05:13:36ZI am Not TrampisThe Indian bowlers have clearly used swing ( whether it be orthodox or revers much better than the Aussies. The...<p>The Indian bowlers have clearly used swing ( whether it be orthodox or revers much better than the Aussies. The Fact that the Inians bowl around the wicket and thus mute the swing makes this deplorable.<br />
Saker was a genius in 2005. what has happened since?</p>
<p>Starc has only bowled two decent inswingers ( which both got wickets. If I can detect his problems surely a bowling coach can</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca6b9d200b2018-12-31T04:58:44Z2018-12-31T04:58:44ZI am Not TrampisI have talked about Starc and his problems. He has bowled a mere two great inswingers and they took wickets....<p>I have talked about Starc and his problems. He has bowled a mere two great inswingers and they took wickets. Hazelwood consistency swings it but rarely dangerously and Cummins doesn't swing it at all. Very little reverse swing to see at all. The Indians on the other hand have consistently swung it but because they bowl around the wicket it has been muted.</p>
<p>They have also been more adept at reverse swing</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384ba79200c2018-12-31T04:17:13Z2018-12-31T04:17:13ZPhilsgoneAs i said before if we were batting against our bowlers we wouldnt reach 150. And clearly Warner was the...<p><br />
As i said before if we were batting against our bowlers we wouldnt reach 150. And clearly Warner was the greatest ball shiner of all time. Whatever he did before, its not happening now.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aabe24200d2018-12-31T03:50:15Z2018-12-31T03:50:15ZTony TeaWe were completely outbowled by the Indian quicks. Apparently district cricket, first class and international umpire have been told to...<p>We were completely outbowled by the Indian quicks. Apparently district cricket, first class and international umpire have been told to crack down on ball shiners who chew lollies. As a result the Aussies are shit scared of any kind of maltreatment of the agate.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aabb6a200d2018-12-31T02:44:02Z2018-12-31T02:44:02ZI am Not Trampis Keith Miler was not an allrounder nor was Risky. They were both bowlers who could bat. Miller could have been...<p>Keith Miler was not an allrounder nor was Risky. They were both bowlers who could bat. Miller could have been if he had batted at 6 and not 4. Remember under the Invincibles Lindwall and Tallon scored more runs.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca65af200b2018-12-31T02:36:11Z2018-12-31T02:36:11ZI am Not TrampisWade is not as good a keeper as Paine although he wasn't at his best at the G mind few...<p>Wade is not as good a keeper as Paine although he wasn't at his best at the G mind few were. Perhaps Wade as a batsman here but not in England.<br />
Please just choose people who have a tight technique. I hear Burns has tightened up quite a bit since his sacking.</p>
<p>I know I rant on about technique but if it is not there it is leading lambs to the slaughter.</p>
<p>The other thing is I underestimated the Indian attack. I thought they would come to Australia and simply bowl short and get hit as usual. They did not. Bumrah is a great leader of the pack as well.</p>
<p>I am not a selector. They would or should have been poring over the series agin the Poms and Aardvarks. They obviously did not</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aabae9200d2018-12-31T02:33:28Z2018-12-31T02:33:28ZTony TeaDoolan's been pretty good in the Shield.<p>Doolan's been <a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/233648.html" rel="nofollow">pretty good in the Shield<a rel="nofollow">.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca6580200b2018-12-31T02:31:03Z2018-12-31T02:31:03ZTony TeaAre all rounders more of an overseas thing? I mean with all the work load management and the very hot...<p>Are all rounders more of an overseas thing? I mean with all the work load management and the very hot days on hard grounds just not not being conducive to Aussie all rounders. Keith Miller got by on raw talent. Richie was a spinner. Gilly was a keeper. Best pick four good bowlers who can bat a bit, unless they are so good with the ball that you needn't worry about his batting.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aaba2d200d2018-12-31T02:14:32Z2018-12-31T02:14:32ZI am Not TrampisWe do not have allrounders. some are batsmen who can bowl and others are bowlers who can bat.<p>We do not have allrounders. some are batsmen who can bowl and others are bowlers who can bat.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384adfa200c2018-12-31T01:32:27Z2018-12-31T01:32:27ZPatardThe Alex Doolan inclusion threw me big time.<p>The Alex Doolan inclusion threw me big time.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aab7c7200d2018-12-31T01:30:00Z2018-12-31T01:30:00ZTony TeaThis is Knoxy's top six: "Marcus Harris and Travis Head are on the right track. Those two, and Khawaja, ought...<p>This is Knoxy's top six: "Marcus Harris and Travis Head are on the right track. Those two, and Khawaja, ought to be joined in Brisbane by a group drawn from Kurtis Patterson, Matthew Renshaw, Alex Doolan, Joe Burns and Jake Lehmann, with Cameron Bancroft and possibly Jason Sangha."</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca6131200b2018-12-31T01:25:47Z2018-12-31T01:25:47ZPatardJust reading up on the latest cricket news. A couple of points: 1) In the video interview with ChappellI at...<p>Just reading up on the latest cricket news. A couple of points:</p>
<p>1) In the video interview with ChappellI at Crookinfo the subject of Ozzie batting woes he says:</p>
<p><i>"You are looking at replacing guys who are averaging in the mid 30s in first class cricket with other guys who are averaging about the same in first class cricket. That's when you know you've got a real problem."</i></p>
<p>[Nominates Finch and Mitch Marsh to be dropped for Sydney.]</p>
<p><i>But, ah, who you replace them with...well..pull a name out of a hat.</i></p>
<p>But this is not true. The Shield stats are readily available and there are 13 players averaging over 40 (some like Patterson and Burns with a standard 1st class average over 40). The best performing batsman in order are:</p>
<p>1 Matthew Wade 63.44<br />
2 Marcus Harris 71.57<br />
3 Michael Neser 52<br />
4 KR Patterson 47.55<br />
5 JA Burns 47.2<br />
6 DP Hughes 46.2<br />
7 Jake Lehmann 46.1<br />
8 TLW Cooper 45.54<br />
9 PSP Handscomb 45.12<br />
10 MP Stoinis 42.57<br />
11 GJ Maxwell 42<br />
12 CL White 41.85<br />
13 MC Henriques 41.2</p>
<p>No hat required: replace Finch with Joe Burns.</p>
<p>Wade to replace Paine the minute Paine returns to 1st class averages form.</p>
<p>Patterson in for Smarsh in answer to longterm goals re. this excellent article <a href="https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/short-sighted-selectors-should-have-picked-team-for-birmingham-20181230-p50ou3.html." rel="nofollow">https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/short-sighted-selectors-should-have-picked-team-for-birmingham-20181230-p50ou3.html.</a> </p>
<p>2) Allrounder. </p>
<p>The best allrounder in the Shield is Queensland's Michael Neser. Currently averaging 52 with the bat this season and 32.46 with the ball. 1st class bat = 26.45 and ball = 30.15.</p>
<p>The 2nd best allrounder is Marcus Stoinis. Currently averaging 42.57 with the bat this season and 25.2 with the ball. 1st class bat = 33.61 and ball = 42.36.</p>
<p>There is daylight between these two and the rest. Mitch Marsh should never have been selected. Stoinis was my choice.</p>
<p>Now, here's the kicker: "Australia have added allrounder Marnus Labuschagne to their squad for the final Test against India in Sydney" (<a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25642372/australia-call-marnus-labuschagne-mitchell-marsh-slumps)" rel="nofollow">http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25642372/australia-call-marnus-labuschagne-mitchell-marsh-slumps)</a></p>
<p>Marnus Labuschagne is not an allrounder. His current Shield bowling is 59.60 and doesn't even make it onto the Shield stats table for best bowling averages. His current Shield batting is 28.22 - 8 positions above Finch and 11 above Steve O'Keefe on 24.66. O'Keefe's bowling is currently 44.14, not great but vastly superior to Labuschagne. Furthermore, O'Keefe has great stats at the SCG and Tests against India!</p>
<p>Steve O'Keefe is not an allrounder and neither is Labuschagne.</p>
<p>Picking on form Burns replaces Finch and Patterson replaces Shaun Marsh. </p>
<p>Possibly drop Hazelewood and bring in O'Keefe and replace M Marsh's slot Lehman or Stoinis.</p>
<p>The two teams are:</p>
<p>SCG Australia 1 2018/2019 <br />
Order Name State Tests 1st Class<br />
1 Marcus Harris WA 35.5 35.49<br />
2 Joe Burns QLD 36.76 40.58<br />
3 Usman Khawaja NSW 42.8 43.87<br />
4 Kurtis Patterson NSW n/a 41<br />
5 Travis Head SA 35.62 36.94<br />
6 Marcus Stoinis VIC n/a 33.61<br />
7 Tim Paine (w) TAS 36.91 29.95<br />
8 Pat Cummins NSW 19.22 23.72<br />
9 Mitchell Starc NSW 20.91 21.74<br />
10 Steve O'Keefe NSW 9.55 27.52<br />
11 Nathan Lyon NSW 12.53 13.07<br />
Total 249.8 347.49</p>
<p><br />
SCG Australia 2 2018/2019 <br />
Order Name State Tests 1st Class<br />
1 Marcus Harris WA 35.5 35.49<br />
2 Joe Burns QLD 36.76 40.58<br />
3 Usman Khawaja NSW 42.8 43.87<br />
4 Kurtis Patterson NSW n/a 41<br />
5 Travis Head SA 35.62 36.94<br />
6 Jake Lehmann SA n/a 39.62<br />
7 Tim Paine (w) TAS 36.91 29.95<br />
8 Pat Cummins NSW 19.22 23.72<br />
9 Mitchell Starc NSW 20.91 21.74<br />
10 Steve O'Keefe NSW 9.55 27.52<br />
11 Nathan Lyon NSW 12.53 13.07<br />
Total 249.8 353.5</p>
<p>Both teams are statistically 50 runs better than the MCG team and have several players currently averaging over 40 or more in 1st class, contrary to what ChappellI imagines the stats to be.</p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca5c58200b2018-12-30T23:33:58Z2018-12-30T23:33:58ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comHah - Mongrel, I remember that episode and use that quote often! Gold.<p>Hah - Mongrel, I remember that episode and use that quote often! Gold. </p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aab164200d2018-12-30T22:57:32Z2018-12-30T22:57:32ZPhilsgoneIf Gilly wasnt picked at no.6, how on God's earth could Paine play there and Cummins at 7. The best...<p>If Gilly wasnt picked at no.6, how on God's earth could Paine play there and Cummins at 7. The best ever played no. 7. Paine is not better than Gilly. Who has the best batting average at the SCG. Pick him. Unfortunately its probably Smith or Warner. So pick next in line, not some pseudo all rounder whio hasnt taken wickets or scored runs.<br />
Selectors should not be paid when we lose.Simple</p>The Mongrel commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384a307200c2018-12-30T21:26:17Z2018-12-30T21:28:25ZThe Mongrelhttps://profile.typepad.com/6p01053622265e970bCarrot: they tried EVERYTHING to find replacements but no one was good enough. The Simpsons: We’ve tried nothing and we’re...<p>Carrot: they tried EVERYTHING to find replacements but no one was good enough.</p>
<p>The Simpsons: We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!</p>
<p><a href="https://legendsofwindemere.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/1599e06bd7b11b9d1e3d414c4cfb97bd3ad4ed044ac06d4ec5625cf4d0d224ec.jpg?w=640" rel="nofollow">https://legendsofwindemere.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/1599e06bd7b11b9d1e3d414c4cfb97bd3ad4ed044ac06d4ec5625cf4d0d224ec.jpg?w=640</a></p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384a2c8200c2018-12-30T21:21:37Z2018-12-30T21:21:37ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comI have now heard Allan Border and Ian Chappell advocating putting Cummins in a seven and playing an extra bowler....<p>I have now heard Allan Border and Ian Chappell advocating putting Cummins in a seven and playing an extra bowler. Which is just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, particularly under the current circumstances. WE HAVE NO BATTING, and you want to lengthen the tail? Furthermore, we HAD the “extra bowler” in Melbourne in the form of Mitch Marsh, and look where that got us. Christ on a bike. Leave Cummins where he is, and pick an actual top 6! </p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38487ac200c2018-12-30T10:04:41Z2018-12-30T10:04:41ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comIt makes sense to set people up to fail if they’re looking ultimately to bring Smith and Warner straight back...<p>It makes sense to set people up to fail if they’re looking ultimately to bring Smith and Warner straight back in. That way their “rehabilitation” - shit, I hate that word in connection with this story - is complete. They don’t only come back because their bans are up but because we really, really need them, they tried EVERYTHING to find replacements but no one was good enough. That would also explain the continued non-selection of Maxwell, which I really don’t get. He always seems to be the next cab off the rank, but then oh look, there are suddenly three guys in front of him when a spot opens up. Quite how Langer was able to push Marsh back into the side (and it can only have been Langer, it has his grubby fingerprints all over it) is beyond me. </p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3848763200c2018-12-30T09:58:23Z2018-12-30T09:58:23ZI am Not TrampisI am no expert on Finch but he has a decent shield record batting down the order. Opening in white...<p>I am no expert on Finch but he has a decent shield record batting down the order. Opening in white ball cricket is not the samw as red ball. You do not need a tight batting technique. Batting Sharma say no more.</p>
<p>Set up to fail sounds about right.</p>
<p>moreover with no large changes for Sydanee means most will play against the three Lankans and make a killing.<br />
They go to england and the popms make a killing assuming same p itches as against India</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38485f9200c2018-12-30T08:35:23Z2018-12-30T08:35:23ZTony TeaThe Victorian hierarchy were adamant the selectors were setting Finch up to fail. They said exactly what you said, Homer....<p>The Victorian hierarchy were adamant the selectors were setting Finch up to fail. They said exactly what you said, Homer. Finch is good to spin, but rubbish to swing.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca31e2200b2018-12-30T05:32:57Z2018-12-30T05:32:57ZI am Not TrampisI should add one positive byprpduct of India of Kholi being Captain given he is a fitness fanatic is that...<p>I should add one positive byprpduct of India of Kholi being Captain given he is a fitness fanatic is that the Indian team are far more athletic these days. Much better at both fielding and running between the wickets</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384826a200c2018-12-30T05:22:52Z2018-12-30T05:22:52ZI am Not TrampisOn Finch, it made sense to open in UAE ( which is NOT the sub-continent) as the ball does not...<p>On Finch,<br />
it made sense to open in UAE ( which is NOT the sub-continent) as the ball does not swing much at all.</p>
<p>Not here though. If it did wouldn't he open for his state.</p>
<p>seems to me you forget about people who have not performed and stick with new players whom you think will.</p>
<p>Take Chappelli . He did not become a test batsman until 1968/69. Risky did not until 1957 in SA</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38480c1200c2018-12-30T04:13:09Z2018-12-30T04:13:09ZPatardA toilet of Marshes. Love it! O'Keefe's main problem is that he thinks he is funny and thus is always...<p><i>A toilet of Marshes.</i> Love it!</p>
<p><i>O'Keefe's main problem is that he thinks he is funny and thus is always trying to be funny. He was this time but it wasn't.</i> I've completely given up on listening to the commentary. I turn the sound off and just listen to albums on spotify.</p>
<p>One thing I did like on the Fox broadcast when at my parent's who still have the commentary on was the live stump mic. Not so much for listening to the players but just the silence and just background ground noise. It was very relaxing and reminded me of the game when I was a lad and watching it at my grandparent's. Great innovation which we need more of.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa8aeb200d2018-12-30T04:10:12Z2018-12-30T04:10:12ZTony TeaI would love to know the selectors' thinking behind Finch.<p>I would love to know the selectors' thinking behind Finch.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3848080200c2018-12-30T04:08:21Z2018-12-30T04:08:21ZPatardHere's the tour batting averages compared to 1st Class and Test averages Order Name State Tests 1st Class Tour Difference...<p>Here's the tour batting averages compared to 1st Class and Test averages</p>
<p>Order Name State Tests 1st Class Tour Difference 1st Difference Tests<br />
1 Marcus Harris WA 35.5 35.49 29.5 -5.99 -6<br />
2 Aaron Finch Vic 33.37 35.95 16.16 -19.79 -17.21<br />
3 Usman Khawaja NSW 42.8 43.87 27.83 -16.04 -14.97<br />
4 Shaun Marsh WA 34.82 41 29.16 -11.84 -5.66<br />
5 Travis Head SA 35.62 36.94 36.16 -0.78 0.54<br />
6 Mitchell Marsh (a) WA 26.08 31.93 9.5 -22.43 -16.58<br />
7 Tim Paine (w) TAS 36.91 29.95 28.16 -1.79 -8.75<br />
8 Pat Cummins NSW 19.22 23.72 23 -0.72 3.78<br />
9 Mitchell Starc NSW 20.91 21.74 17.6 -4.14 -3.31<br />
10 Nathan Lyon NSW 12.53 13.07 27.66 14.59 15.13<br />
11 Josh Hazlewood NSW 12.65 12.38 7.5 -4.88 -5.15<br />
Total 310.41 326.04 244.73 -81.31 -65.68<br />
<br />
Peter Handscomb VIC 39 38.65 17 -21.65 -22</p>
<p>Sorry about the formatting.</p>
<p>The team collectively is down 81 on 1st class averages and 65 on Test averages. The biggest failures against 1st class stats in order are: 1) #2 Son of Swampy at -22.43 2) Finch at -19.79 3) The Next Don Bradman at -16.79 4) #1 Son of Swampy at -11.84 and 5) Harris at -6</p>
<p>Best performers of the batsmen is Head at -0.78 and +0.54 improved on his Test average. His inclusion can be considered a success. Paine is 2nd at -1.79 on 1st class stats which is considered as expected in the normal world. In the normal world we expect a batsman to perform at or *below* 1st class average when stepping up a class. It's the same expectation as in say horseracing. A step up in class means better competition and naturally your average will suffer. So in that regard Paine overall has performed above and beyond expectations given his Test average is +6.96 on his 1st class average. Well done Paine!</p>
<p>The biggest disappointments with the same normal understanding in mind are Sons of Swampy and The Next Don who perform considerably below 1st class averages.</p>
<p>No one ever expected Finch to perform in his role as he's proven throughout his career that he's not a long format opener. His average attests to that. But, he actually performs just under his 1st class average in Tests and within acceptable range. So, also well done Finch. He performed within expectations.</p>
<p>Only in the world of TV and radio panels of ex-international cricketers as well as the Australian selectors are players expected to perform above and beyond the statistical benchmark those players averages indicate is the level of their talent.</p>
<p>We're looking forward to further squandering of opportunities to blood talent at the SCG Test since there is nothing the cognoscenti and selectors love more than doubling down on their stupidity and incestuous in-group behaviour patterns.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3848039200c2018-12-30T03:53:55Z2018-12-30T03:53:55ZI am Not TrampisTonee right again. O'Keefe's main problem is that he thinks he is funny and thus is always trying to be...<p>Tonee right again.</p>
<p>O'Keefe's main problem is that he thinks he is funny and thus is always trying to be funny. He was this time but it wasn't.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca2f2a200b2018-12-30T03:35:06Z2018-12-30T03:35:06ZTony TeaWhat O'Keefe said is not of itself racist. It's just a jibe that Agarwal would have main a lot of...<p>What O'Keefe said is not of itself racist. It's just a jibe that Agarwal would have main a lot of runs against weak teams. But I didn't hear it, or the other thing abou Che-poo.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa89dc200d2018-12-30T03:31:42Z2018-12-30T03:31:42ZTony TeaA toilet of Marshes.<p>A toilet of Marshes.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3847e62200c2018-12-30T02:34:14Z2018-12-30T02:34:14ZI am Not TrampisTones how about a special name your own Aussie team article. I think it should be a tram of Marshes....<p>Tones how about a special name your own Aussie team article.</p>
<p>I think it should be a tram of Marshes. first test to be all over in a day</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca2af1200b2018-12-30T00:56:22Z2018-12-30T00:56:22ZPatardUh-oh http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25637246/india-furious-kerry-okeeffe-jalandhar-railways-canteen-staff-jibe What is it with the name O'Keefe? SB: "Hey Duke, Racism is not light-hearted and fun. Only if...<p>Uh-oh <a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25637246/india-furious-kerry-okeeffe-jalandhar-railways-canteen-staff-jibe" rel="nofollow">http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25637246/india-furious-kerry-okeeffe-jalandhar-railways-canteen-staff-jibe</a></p>
<p>What is it with the name O'Keefe?</p>
<p><i>SB: "Hey Duke, Racism is not light-hearted and fun. Only if we stop this now, it won't pass on to the future generation. Racism is not taken seriously in cricket like in other sports. People get away with it."</i></p>
<p>It's racist now to suspect a triple century was against sub-optimal opposition?</p>
<p>Btw, it's not often one gets to praise Melbourne for its weather but credit where credit's due. If only the top order could have hung about a bit longer.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3847b3a200c2018-12-30T00:45:02Z2018-12-30T00:45:02ZTony TeaPat Cummins should be captain. He does all the work.<p>Pat Cummins should be captain. He does all the work.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca2a06200b2018-12-30T00:29:21Z2018-12-30T00:29:21ZPatardJust caught the tail end of the ABC cricket commentary and they were talking about a "dearth of spin bowlers"...<p>Just caught the tail end of the ABC cricket commentary and they were talking about a "dearth of spin bowlers" in the Shield at the moment. </p>
<p>Don't know who they were but the expert/ex-cricketer was asked to nominate who's the best and on the fringes for selection. Agar was mentioned, but he then nominated John Holland as being #1 choice. </p>
<p>He then noted that, elephant in the room, Steve O'Keefe has "a phenomenal record at the SCG". I might add, he also has the equivalent 1st class bowling stats as Warne and Magilla. He also when finally selected almost single-handedly defeated India in the first test of a series in India.</p>
<p>Forget about the suspensions given to Smith, Warner and Bancroft, O'Keefe has suffered a sureptitious life-time ban from the In-Club/cognoscenti for telling it like it is when he's had a few. Big no-no in the pantheon of Cricket's elite wankers.</p>
<p>As the cricket expert on ABC noted as a positive attribute of another possible spin bowling selection, "he knows how the dressing room works".</p>
<p>There you have it.</p>
<p>We do not select the best cricketers to represent Australia. We select from a conga line of suckholes who "know how the dressing room works".</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa637f200d2018-12-29T08:57:04Z2018-12-29T08:57:04ZI am Not TrampisI have forgiven him but his behaviour as Captain on that occasion mean never to captain again. play for sure...<p>I have forgiven him but his behaviour as Captain on that occasion mean never to captain again. play for sure but never captain</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa637c200d2018-12-29T08:55:32Z2018-12-29T08:55:32ZPhilsgoneCummins the hour Cummins the man. Buggers my prediction of next years Ashes though. Also the talk of India's strength...<p>Cummins the hour Cummins the man. Buggers my prediction of next years Ashes though.<br />
Also the talk of India's strength beucase of population is a joke. All Blacks anyone? <br />
Starc needs a talking to. He cant keep playing those type of shots "because thats how he plays". Doesnt excuse the batsmen, but putting value on his wicket would asisst us presently.</p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa636e200d2018-12-29T08:48:39Z2018-12-29T08:48:39ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comMarch 2020 is a long time away. No one’s suggesting that he’ll just walk right back into the role, either...<p>March 2020 is a long time away. No one’s suggesting that he’ll just walk right back into the role, either - it could be that there isn’t a vacancy for awhile after that anyway. Looking at it though - who else is a candidate for the captaincy at the moment after Paine? No one, and er - no one. </p>
<p>If we can forgive Warne for all of his indiscretions, we’ll forgive Smith. I’m sure he’ll be back. </p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca0864200b2018-12-29T08:00:39Z2018-12-29T08:00:39ZI am Not TrampisI would not let smith anywhere near the captaincy. He simply does not understand what the spirit of cricket is....<p>I would not let smith anywhere near the captaincy.</p>
<p>He simply does not understand what the spirit of cricket is. Warner never has. how he was ever V/C is a complete and utter joke</p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38459cf200c2018-12-29T07:56:56Z2018-12-29T07:56:56ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comSmith can, and probably will be captain again. The terms of his ban say that he can’t hold a leadership...<p>Smith can, and probably will be captain again. The terms of his ban say that he can’t hold a leadership position within a year after his ban, but after that he’s fine. It’s Warner who is barred from that. </p>
<p>It might be interesting to see whether they consider Bancroft with the bat again, and if so, when. As we’ve seen, no one’s really put their hand up at all in this series. At all - young, old, experienced or inexperienced. There could be an argument to replace every one of them. They won’t go that way of course, but there isn’t a single batsman in this side that has enhanced their reputation this series. I’d argue that it’s Marsh and Khawaja that have been the most disappointing, though - we needed more from them. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t get TOO carried away about our batting stocks, though. There isn’t a side in world cricket that wouldn’t suffer hugely from removing three established top order players, and particularly players of the likes of Smith and Warner. Where would India be if you took out Kohli and Pujara for a year? South Africa without Elgar and du Plessis? New Zealand without Taylor and Williamson? We were always going to suffer from that decision. </p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca0827200b2018-12-29T07:50:16Z2018-12-29T07:50:16ZPatardHere are the batting stats for Shield 2018/2019. I've only included those who've played 4 or more matches and have...<p>Here are the batting stats for Shield 2018/2019. I've only included those who've played 4 or more matches and have averaged 40 plus. </p>
<p>Count Name Age Matches Innings 2018/2019 Avge 1st Class Tests Position<br />
3 Matthew Wade 31 6 12 "63.44 " 39.57 "28.58 " <br />
2 Marcus Harris 26 5 8 71.57 35.49 35.5 <br />
4 Michael Neser 28 5 8 52 26.45 n/a Allrounder<br />
5 KR Patterson 25 6 11 47.55 41 n/a <br />
6 JA Burns 29 6 12 47.2 40.58 36.76 Opener<br />
7 DP Hughes 30 6 11 46.2 39.76 n/a <br />
1 Jake Lehmann 26 6 11 46.1 39.62 n/a <br />
8 TLW Cooper 32 6 11 45.54 34.37 n/a <br />
9 PSP Handscomb 27 5 8 45.12 38.65 39 <br />
10 MP Stoinis 29 4 7 42.57 33.61 n/a Allrounder<br />
11 GJ Maxwell 30 2 4 42 41.1 26.07 <br />
12 CL White 35 5 8 41.85 40.38 29.2 <br />
13 MC Henriques 32 6 10 41.2 34.49 23.42 Allrounder<br />
* M Labuschagne 24 5 9 28.22 33.17 20.25 Golden Boy<br />
* Mitchell Marsh 27 4 7 37.71 31.93 26.08 Blessed</p>
<p>Most glaring stat is obviously Marnus Labuschagne in light of his 1) ever being selected to play for Australia and 2) that rumours say he's about to get another chance.</p>
<p>2nd most glaring stat: there are 3 vastly better "allrounders" available for selection.</p>
<p>I've let Maxwell through even though he's only played 2 matches. Gotta feel for Maxwell as he's another who's been O'Keefed in this era of the ACB in-club. Also in there is Cam White, another who's proven himself statistically but has never been given the opportunities the "blessed ones" have. He's probably too old now for selection but good on him and shame Test selectors.</p>
<p>Good to see Wade's still going strong should Paine stumble.</p>
<p>That leaves Patterson at the head of a handy bunch of batsmen. In order: Patterson, Burns, Hughes, Lehmann, Cooper and Handscomb. It's from that bunch the next Test batsman must be chosen and *not* Labuschagne.</p>
<p>If Labuschagne is selcted I want the selectors to explain how he will defy his career stats to now and suddenly become a 40 plus Test batsman. If he's in for his bowling as well then I want them to explain why he comes in ahead of 3 vastly better allrounders.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca03ac200b2018-12-29T05:08:40Z2018-12-29T05:08:40ZI am Not TrampisLet us look at both teams future for say 4 years. India are looking good. Assume their teenage sensation is...<p>Let us look at both teams future for say 4 years.<br />
India are looking good. Assume their teenage sensation is simply an average test batsman then they have solved their opening batting problem. They can choose between 3 or 3 batsmen for no. 6. bowling Sarma will retire but they have Kumar who although medium pace can swing it both ways and is useful as a batsman. Pant, like Marsh before him can only improve.</p>
<p>Australia has a formidable attack but who will eventually replace Paine. Yes Smith comes back but he can never captain the team again so who will it be.<br />
We also need batsmen. A lot of them</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384548b200c2018-12-29T04:55:23Z2018-12-29T04:55:23ZPhilsgoneApparently the last time an Australian batsman didnt get a 50 was against the Windies in 88/89. Thats 30 years...<p>Apparently the last time an Australian batsman didnt get a 50 was against the Windies in 88/89. Thats 30 years ago. At the MCG. Time for a repeat dose. The good news is that the Ashes of '89 rose from that performance. Any bets on it happening again?</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38453ee200c2018-12-29T04:28:44Z2018-12-29T04:28:44ZTony TeaA suitable exclamation mark for this, yet another ignominious loss - would be to have day five totally washed out.<p>A suitable exclamation mark for this, yet another ignominious loss - would be to have day five totally washed out.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca0278200b2018-12-29T04:05:42Z2018-12-29T04:05:42ZI am Not TrampisI prefer Groucho ,Chico or Harpo Marsh<p>I prefer Groucho ,Chico or Harpo Marsh </p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3ca024a200b2018-12-29T04:00:06Z2018-12-29T04:00:06ZPatardOk, the selectors have had their fun with us but it's time to get serious and never select Mitch Marsh...<p>Ok, the selectors have had their fun with us but it's time to get serious and never select Mitch Marsh again.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa5ad1200d2018-12-29T03:08:41Z2018-12-29T03:08:41ZI am Not Trampisnotice how many times the umpire at the bowling end is not watching whether the batsman has pout his bat...<p>notice how many times the umpire at the bowling end is not watching whether the batsman has pout his bat past the popping crease</p>I am Not trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3845111200c2018-12-29T02:43:22Z2018-12-29T02:43:22ZI am Not trampisWhy oh why would anyone review that when he knew he did not hit the ball. That is almost cheating,...<p>Why oh why would anyone review that when he knew he did not hit the ball.</p>
<p>That is almost cheating, no it is.</p>
<p>Only umpires should be able to use the DRS southwester it contradicts the spirit of cricket</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9ffb9200b2018-12-29T02:30:22Z2018-12-29T02:30:22ZI am Not TrampisWhat is it about Shami. He looked to be bowling at 160 in Perth and even in Melbourne he looks...<p>What is it about Shami.<br />
He looked to be bowling at 160 in Perth and even in Melbourne he looks easily the quickest bowler BUT he is not</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa5767200d2018-12-29T01:25:45Z2018-12-29T01:25:45ZPatardEveryone goes on about who should be in and who should be out, but while nearly everyone deserves to be...<p><i>Everyone goes on about who should be in and who should be out, but while nearly everyone deserves to be out, no one deserves to be in.</i></p>
<p>Average of 41 vs average of 33.</p>
<p>The 41 deserves to be selected every time. </p>
<p>We the public deserve an explanation from the selectors as to why they keep on selecting this rotating cast of clowns.</p>
<p>Did Patterson do an O'Keefe?</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3844db0200c2018-12-29T01:10:12Z2018-12-29T01:10:12ZI am Not TrampisCan't disagree with that outstanding logic. Australia now has pressure on it. Every batsman knows if they play a Marsh...<p>Can't disagree with that outstanding logic.</p>
<p>Australia now has pressure on it. Every batsman knows if they play a Marsh shot they wil be out. They also know a ball might do anything, more likely be a grubber and they are gawn</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa55e4200d2018-12-29T00:55:42Z2018-12-29T00:55:42ZTony TeaEveryone goes on about who should be in and who should be out, but while nearly everyone deserves to be...<p>Everyone goes on about who should be in and who should be out, but while nearly everyone deserves to be out, no one deserves to be in. </p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3844c16200c2018-12-29T00:48:20Z2018-12-29T00:48:20ZPatardMark down the name Marnus Labuschagne in your black books. The Tonk hears the Queensland batsman remains firmly in the...<p><i>Mark down the name Marnus Labuschagne in your black books. The Tonk hears the Queensland batsman remains firmly in the plans of selectors this summer and could even be a late addition to the squad for the Sydney Test.</i></p>
<p><a href="https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/the-man-who-could-be-a-test-bolter-20181228-p50okb.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/the-man-who-could-be-a-test-bolter-20181228-p50okb.html</a></p>
<p>With a 1st class average of 33.17 the best one can say about his selection is that at least the selectors remain consistent in picking batsmen in the low 30 batting averages.</p>
<p>Kurtis Patterson is averaging 41 yet can say goodbye to any hopes of ever being selected for Oz given this slap in the face. </p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa5133200d2018-12-28T23:23:27Z2018-12-28T23:23:27ZI am Not Trampisterming some-one an allrounder usually means the person has no idea. We have had only one allrounder in the game...<p>terming some-one an allrounder usually means the person has no idea.</p>
<p>We have had only one allrounder in the game thus far. My memory might be suspect so I won't be dogmatic. That is Ian Botham.<br />
An allrounder can hold his place in the team both as a batsman or bowler. he has consistently s won tests with both bat and ball.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384478b200c2018-12-28T23:09:31Z2018-12-28T23:09:31ZI am Not Trampismaaaaate, We could not get 200 runs let alone over 300. if it gets to 400 forget it. I know...<p>maaaaate,</p>
<p>We could not get 200 runs let alone over 300. if it gets to 400 forget it.</p>
<p>I know the Ashes is a long way off but the addition of Warner and Smith might not be the Godsend a lot of people think it is. Warner is a flat track bully. My memory has it he only scored a ton at the oval where conditions were benign. Smith's technique gets found out if the ball is swinging and seaming around ( how come TV commentators do not know the difference?).</p>
<p>Anderson could bowl to 50 over there as well. At least they have batting problems as well</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa4a7c200d2018-12-28T20:45:00Z2018-12-28T20:45:00ZPhilsgoneOur sole objective should be to keep them bowling as long as we possibly can. If we do this a...<p>Our sole objective should be to keep them bowling as long as we possibly can. If we do this a win will happen as there is time enough for that. We need another Dubai second innings effort.</p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa2ce7200d2018-12-28T09:27:38Z2018-12-28T09:27:38ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comJust watched the highlights of today. Classic case of what comes around goes around; Cummins will never get luckier than...<p>Just watched the highlights of today. Classic case of what comes around goes around; Cummins will never get luckier than he did today, with two dismissals at leg gully and then another strangled down the leg side. He’s deserved that luck given how he’s bowled lately without much reward, though. </p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3842461200c2018-12-28T09:11:56Z2018-12-28T09:11:56ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comJesus, that was a dog’s breakfast. I might try that again. .... my dodgy website went down and wouldn’t come...<p>Jesus, that was a dog’s breakfast. I might try that again. </p>
<p>.... my dodgy website went down and wouldn’t come back online, so I went to bed. Didn’t bother staying up for days 2 or 3 given the scores. I might stay up this evening, though. </p>
<p>PS - Season’s greetings one and all. Good to see such a good turn-out for this match. </p>Carrot commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3842449200c2018-12-28T09:09:30Z2018-12-28T09:09:30ZCarrothttp://www.scottwellstead.comWell, this game - and this blog! - has just roared into life, hasn’t it? I watched the first two...<p>Well, this game - and this blog! - has just roared into life, hasn’t it? I watched the first two balls of the opening day and then my dodgy website went down and wouldn’t come back online, so I went to bed and didn’t bother staying up for day 2 or 3 given the scores. I might even stay up this evening, though. </p>
<p>We’re toast, obviously, but at least we’re not 2010/11 Ashes toast. And it’s good to see Cummins getting some wickets finally. He’s deserved his success. He dropped a sitter yesterday and still got a herogram article on cricinfo, and I’m sure not many begrudged it. </p>Big Ramifications commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3842095200c2018-12-28T06:12:22Z2018-12-28T06:12:22ZBig RamificationsRohit Sharma with the oldskool 1970s pads to face Cimmins' hat-trick ball.<p>Rohit Sharma with the oldskool 1970s pads to face Cimmins' hat-trick ball.</p>Big Ramifications commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3842080200c2018-12-28T06:05:54Z2018-12-28T06:05:54ZBig RamificationsHaha. 3 down. Cummins got his 3rd about a second after I hit post.<p>Haha. 3 down. Cummins got his 3rd about a second after I hit post.</p>Big Ramifications commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9d122200b2018-12-28T06:04:10Z2018-12-28T06:04:10ZBig Ramifications2 down. Cummins on fire. We're gonna win this.<p>2 down. Cummins on fire. We're gonna win this.</p>I am Not trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841f64200c2018-12-28T05:24:01Z2018-12-28T05:24:01ZI am Not trampisThe Big Bash is an abomination. We apparently cannot change our techniques for rec ball and white ball cricket. if...<p>The Big Bash is an abomination. We apparently cannot change our techniques for rec ball and white ball cricket.</p>
<p>if you ignore first class cricket you ignore test cricket<br />
the toss is part of cricket. Losing the toss does not mean losing a match IF the pitch is a test pitch.</p>
<p>suspension on all three were over the top as administrators who had no credibility punished the players with sentences never seen before.</p>
<p>Why have people noted out batting weaknesses. Perhaps because we understand and love cricket</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9d00b200b2018-12-28T05:16:30Z2018-12-28T05:16:30ZPhilsgoneIrrespective of the pitch we are a poor batting side currently, Its just that out bowlers can get us into...<p>Irrespective of the pitch we are a poor batting side currently, Its just that out bowlers can get us into the game when the conditions suit us. 2010 Ashes all over again. Then they wrote a big report. Perhaps someone should read it again. It should go like this<br />
1. Stop the big bash <br />
2. Start focusing on first class cricket.<br />
3. Ban the toss, take it in turns to decide who bats first<br />
4. Dont eber ban our 2 best players for 12 months ever again..</p>I am Not trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841f0c200c2018-12-28T05:10:18Z2018-12-28T05:10:18ZI am Not trampisFrom a bowling perspective Starc has rarely swung the ball dangerously. From a technical point of view his right foot...<p>From a bowling perspective Starc has rarely swung the ball dangerously. From a technical point of view his right foot is usually pointing at the WK not 1st slip.</p>
<p>He is not bowling consistently quick as he can.</p>
<p>I still think he is carrying an injury</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9cf65200b2018-12-28T04:51:13Z2018-12-28T04:51:13ZI am Not Trampis151 on a complete road. I don't care how good Bumrah is that was a disgrace. In my second comment...<p>151 on a complete road. I don't care how good Bumrah is that was a disgrace.</p>
<p>In my second comment I said I was worried about our batting on this pitch.<br />
When the Marshs paly we have a long tail</p>
<p>How prescient. A Christmas prescient no less</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa260b200d2018-12-28T04:19:05Z2018-12-28T04:19:05ZTony TeaOne of the reasons I cut back blogging the cricket is that I would find distillations of my posts popping...<p>One of the reasons I cut back blogging the cricket is that I would find distillations of my posts popping up in the MSM unattributed, but one thing that never really got into the MSM was that we've been smashing it about Australia's weak batting for 10 years, but it's only just become apparent to the rest of the punters. Why? If it was obvi to us fat heads, why wasn't it obvi to everyone else? </p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841a9a200c2018-12-28T03:21:14Z2018-12-28T03:21:14ZTony TeaTh pitch was a road on day one, and it played the team which lost the toss out of the...<p>Th pitch was a road on day one, and it played the team which lost the toss out of the game.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9caf2200b2018-12-28T03:02:30Z2018-12-28T03:02:30ZI am Not TrampisIf I was umpiring I would stop the panting. If the Umpire finds it hard to concentrate then the batsman...<p>If I was umpiring I would stop the panting.</p>
<p>If the Umpire finds it hard to concentrate then the batsman would.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38419a0200c2018-12-28T02:53:15Z2018-12-28T02:53:15ZPatardIf the tail bat at average we still fail to make the follow on. What a shambolic debacle this Test...<p>If the tail bat at average we still fail to make the follow on.</p>
<p>What a shambolic debacle this Test has turned into.</p>
<p>So much for the MCG pitch being a road. More like a road on the outskirts of Kabul when we're batting.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38418ea200c2018-12-28T02:25:45Z2018-12-28T02:25:45ZI am Not TrampisI agree our batsmen are average<p>I agree our batsmen are average</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9c997200b2018-12-28T02:24:50Z2018-12-28T02:24:50ZPhilsgoneLook at our batsmen averages in Australia and theirs in Australia. Should be pretty close I think.<p>Look at our batsmen averages in Australia and theirs in Australia. Should be pretty close I think.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa20e5200d2018-12-28T02:21:42Z2018-12-28T02:21:42ZI am Not Trampisgood decision more so if it is an aged Reisling. Nectar of the gods<p>good decision more so if it is an aged Reisling. Nectar of the gods</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9c8fc200b2018-12-28T02:11:52Z2018-12-28T02:11:52ZPatardWhat about if you look at the bowling averages. Good call and I was thinking about that but decided to...<p><i>What about if you look at the bowling averages.</i></p>
<p>Good call and I was thinking about that but decided to crack a Clare Valley riesling instead.</p>
<p>Would be good to see all these sort of stats presented before and during games. There's a ton of variety of stats to apply but the base batting average is the benchmark.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841830200c2018-12-28T02:10:54Z2018-12-28T02:10:54ZI am Not TrampisGood movie but the Tail is in now so might watch the cricket now. Can someone get rid of Mel...<p>Good movie but the Tail is in now so might watch the cricket now. Can someone get rid of Mel McLaughlin</p>Philsgone commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa1fc9200d2018-12-28T01:56:31Z2018-12-28T01:56:31ZPhilsgoneWhat about if you look at the bowling averages. Should we be able to bowl out India for less than...<p>What about if you look at the bowling averages. Should we be able to bowl out India for less than their average? In Australia you would expect so. I would imagine our bowlers would destroy our batting line up. Good thing they dont count the wickets in the nets. Still the bottom half of the order will put on at least 100, So Head/Marsh only need to cobble a 50 stand and we get passed the follow on.</p>Patard commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9c79b200b2018-12-28T01:35:48Z2018-12-28T01:35:48ZPatardHiya Tones, 'tis I. Merry Christmas to you and yours too, mate! Hope the tree change is bringing you cooling...<p>Hiya Tones, 'tis I.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas to you and yours too, mate! Hope the tree change is bringing you cooling shade this summer.</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38416ca200c2018-12-28T01:34:18Z2018-12-28T01:34:18ZMeritocratic Meritocracy Sean Mush just got the bum's rush. Great ball, Bumrah.<p>Sean Mush just got the bum's rush.</p>
<p>Great ball, Bumrah.</p>
<p><br />
</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384165b200c2018-12-28T01:24:59Z2018-12-28T01:24:59ZTony TeaIs that you, Pat? Merry Christmas to ya.<p>Is that you, Pat? Merry Christmas to ya.</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad384160a200c2018-12-28T01:17:59Z2018-12-28T01:17:59ZMeritocratic MeritocracyPrediction: Oz to make 250 to 300 Recalibrating Prediction: Oz to make 200 to 250 Homer, try Shenandoah and see...<p><i>Prediction: Oz to make 250 to 300</i></p>
<p>Recalibrating</p>
<p>Prediction: Oz to make 200 to 250</p>
<p>Homer, try Shenandoah and see if that brings us better luck.</p>Tony Tea commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa1c17200d2018-12-28T01:15:09Z2018-12-28T01:15:09ZTony TeaWe are currently going through a shocking drought of good batsmen. It remains to be seen whether we can turn...<p>We are currently going through a shocking drought of good batsmen. It remains to be seen whether we can turn it around and build up another bank of good batsmen. The changed cricket landscape suggests we may struggle.</p>I am Not trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841556200c2018-12-28T01:00:07Z2018-12-28T01:00:07ZI am Not trampisOnly Australia could lose three wickets on a flat track whilst I was watching the Virginian. what an actor Doug...<p>Only Australia could lose three wickets on a flat track whilst I was watching the Virginian. what an actor Doug McCure was</p>
<p>no point in bowling around the wicket. Foot points down the wicket and makes swinging the ball in very hard. no-one is swinging it so much away to bowl around the wicket also</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa1941200d2018-12-28T00:06:59Z2018-12-28T00:06:59ZMeritocratic MeritocracyCorrection: I was comparing the 1 to 7 batting orders including wicket keeper. Current Oz: 245.1 Best Oz 1: 303.78...<p>Correction: I was comparing the 1 to 7 batting orders including wicket keeper.</p>
<p>Current Oz: 245.1<br />
Best Oz 1: 303.78 (with Patterson)<br />
Best Oz 2: 299.40 (with Head)</p>
<p>Current India: 249.02<br />
India with Agarol at 1st Class Average: 299</p>
<p>Conclusion: if it weren't for ridiculous media driven over reaction to sandpaper incident combined with a non-nepotistic selection policy Oz would be on par batting wise with India.</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3841304200c2018-12-27T23:59:56Z2018-12-27T23:59:56ZMeritocratic MeritocracyBest Australia 2018/2019 Order Name State Tests 1st Class 1 Marcus Harris WA 35.5 35.49 2 David Warner NSW 48.2...<p>Best Australia 2018/2019 <br />
Order Name State Tests 1st Class <br />
1 Marcus Harris WA 35.5 35.49 <br />
2 David Warner NSW 48.2 48.63 <br />
3 Usman Khawaja NSW 42.8 43.87 <br />
4 Steven Smith NSW 61.37 57.27 <br />
5 Kurtis PattersonNSW 40 41 <br />
6 Peter Handscomb VIC 39 38.65 <br />
7 Tim Paine (w) TAS 36.91 29.95 303.78<br />
8 Pat Cummins NSW 19.22 23.72 <br />
9 Mitchell Starc NSW 20.91 21.74 <br />
10 Nathan Lyon NSW 12.53 13.07 <br />
11 Josh Hazlewood NSW 12.65 12.38 <br />
Total 369.09 365.77 </p>
<p>Patterson deserves a spot over Head but seeing as Head is incumbent him staying we still collectively average 299.</p>
<p>Current Australia team's collective average is 245.</p>
<p>Indian team is 301 though if we give Agerol a Test average the same as his 1st class then their collective average is 350.85.</p>
<p>Summary: Marsh brothers are selected under false pretenses and if we were to go to a stats based selection policy (meritocratic) rather than the current nepotistic policy we would be a 50 run better team.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3aa18c4200d2018-12-27T23:49:34Z2018-12-27T23:49:34ZI am Not Trampisor the opposite<p>or the opposite</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38411a9200c2018-12-27T23:28:41Z2018-12-27T23:28:41ZMeritocratic Meritocracy To be fair, I just went through the Shield batting stats and only NSW's Patterson averages better than 40 (41)....<p>To be fair, I just went through the Shield batting stats and only NSW's Patterson averages better than 40 (41).</p>
<p>It's possible we are also experiencing a glut of top class bowlers which is driving down the batting averages.</p>I am Not Trampis commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad3c9bfcd200b2018-12-27T23:21:38Z2018-12-27T23:21:38ZI am Not TrampisI am wondering whether the abomination of T20 has affected the preparation of test pitches<p>I am wondering whether the abomination of T20 has affected the preparation of test pitches</p>Meritocratic Meritocracy commented on 'THIRD TEST: THE MCG'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef022ad38410a8200c2018-12-27T23:10:38Z2018-12-27T23:10:38ZMeritocratic MeritocracyFor comparison: India 2018/2019 Order Name State Tests 1st Class 1 Hanuma Vihari 26 58.71 2 Mayank Agarwal 0 49.98...<p>For comparison:</p>
<p>India 2018/2019 <br />
Order Name State Tests 1st Class <br />
1 Hanuma Vihari 26 58.71 <br />
2 Mayank Agarwal 0 49.98 <br />
3 Cheteshwar Pujara 49.77 53.89 <br />
4 Virat Kohli 54.23 54.39 <br />
5 Ajinkya Rahane 41.38 51.32 <br />
6 Rohit Sharma 38.89 54.11 <br />
7 Rishabh Pant (w) 38.75 50.2 <br />
8 Ravindra Jadeja (a) 32.44 47.12 <br />
9 Mohammed Shami 11.1 11.8 <br />
10 Ishant Sharma 7.74 8.38 <br />
11 Jasprit Bumrah 1.55 7.44 <br />
Total 301.85 447.34 <br />
Actual 443 <br />
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