Hard to know which way to call this series. South Africa, in South Africa, should win. But cricket is won in the bowling so it's even Stephen. Where cricket is lost for Australia, is in the dismal batting collapses. South Africa is unlikely to let Australia off the hook like England so often let Australia off the hook last Ashes. England were also putrid. Could an absent Shane Watson, and his key wicket taking ability, be the crucial omission?
Been quiet here for two reasons.
Everyone is going on about Kevin Pietersen. I have bugger all to add. People who select teams weigh up two competing characteristics: 1) is a player better than the next player in line; and 2) does the player compromise team performance? Clearly KP can perform and has more talent than the next in line, even if his recent performances, while better than his teammates, have not been special. Does he compromise team performance? Well, if you believe the England Cricket Group Unit: yes. Geelong always had issues with Gary Ablett senior, but they would not leave him out because he was too good to leave out. On recent form and with form as a troublemaker, the ECGU has decided KP is no longer too good to leave out.
The other salient issue has been the ICC, BCCI, CA, ECB brouhaha. I am in no way qualified or well placed to assess cricket's high level management, financial matters and all the other stuff relating to how cricket should be run. I leave that to the likes of Gideon Haigh, Russ, and the assorted cricket boffins. (Who, to be honest, have swamped me with their assiduous analysis.)
I hate to sound cliched Tony, but I'm really looking forward to this one.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 04:42 PM
If we pick Marsh, I fear a loss. If we pick Hughes, we might squeak a win. Not becasue of the quality of the two players, just becasue of karma. Hughes and SA have a form, and it was winning form. Lyon must also play.
Posted by: gillysgone | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 05:04 PM
Nice to have the cricket on pay tv not bogan-to-air, and at this time.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 07:21 PM
Love cricket in South Africa. Best possible time-zone for me!
Bright start from both sides. We're probably playing to our strengths if we try to score quickly, but just as likely to be 5 down at lunch using the same strategy. Lots of movement so far, too - not a good sign.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Pat Hannagan doesn't have foxtel lol.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 07:50 PM
He doesn't deserve it.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 07:52 PM
Vernon Philander for me is an example of how we don't often properly understand modern cricket - and probably sport in general (which is probably a good thing all things considered, because it'd be pretty boring if we knew all the formulas). He's not that quick, he's not that tall, he doesn't really resemble a world-beating new-ball bowler in any way, that was why it took so long for them to pick him, and yet he's the world's number 1-ranked bowler. Despite all that, I heard someone in the Australian set-up saying "you've got to be consistently bowling around 140 km/h if your'e going to play Test cricket". All that money, all that supposed expertise, a theory that on the surface seems to make some sort of sense, and yet there's a guy proving it wrong in the most emphatic way possible.
Don't fancy a debutant - any debutant - doing well against these guys. Good luck, Doolan....
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 07:54 PM
I love GAYtv.
Where else can I get my daily dose of Brony adventures?
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:04 PM
We are toast.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:09 PM
Glad I'm not paying to watch us fold for 100.
Posted by: M. Patard | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:11 PM
The comment by 'Cameron' @ 08:04 PM was not by me.
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'Glad I'm not paying to watch us fold for 100.'
You can't afford to in any case old boy.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:14 PM
The comment by 'Cameron' @ 08:04 PM was by me.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:15 PM
Would you two make your minds up!
There's a game of cricket going on, you know.
Posted by: M. Patard | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:16 PM
The great thing about being two down for not many is that Watson contributing to the procession isn't going to happen.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:19 PM
Tony, Pat (whatever his latest schizo alias is) is sock puppetting me.
Would you kindly ask him to stop?
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:22 PM
Hey, everyone, let's do the Brony Personality Test during the drinks break.
Posted by: Brony Cam | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:23 PM
It's not me. I'm trying to watch the cricket.
Posted by: M. Patard | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:26 PM
The comment by 'Cameron' @ 08:14 PM was not by me.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:28 PM
One of you is lying.
Anyway, 2/50. Not bad, considering.
Posted by: M. Patard | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:31 PM
Was the scored relayed to you via pigeon faggot?
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:43 PM
A pigeon faggot, yes, exactly. How did you know?
Posted by: M. Patard | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:48 PM
All your delivery orders are homo.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:49 PM
Good stuff, this. Even contest between bat and ball.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Doolan looks to be a wonderful timer (unlike Hannagan).
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 08:53 PM
Doesn't move his feet that much, but he's seemed assured so far.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:04 PM
...... aaaaaand, with that it becomes South Africa's session.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:15 PM
Is there no end to the Sumptuous Gaylord. Other than the mute button, that is. Saints preserve us from him becoming the new Richie Opposite-Of-Incognito.
Posted by: m0nty | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:15 PM
Just in time for Clarketime, too.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:16 PM
Cracking session. Let's hope things carry on this way.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:34 PM
We can only hope that Richie Incognito is signed as free agent to the same team that Michael Sam is drafted by Montgomery. For shits and giggles sake.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:35 PM
How the hell did the Sumptuous One get a gig on Supersport? He is killing Holding's aura.
Posted by: food terroirist | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:57 PM
It feels great to be watching proper bat v ball Test cricket again after a one sided ashes series.
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:58 PM
Warner & Doolan both got out to shit shots.
Posted by: food terroirist | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 09:59 PM
shut up
Posted by: Cameron | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:02 PM
That would have been an appalling review had they gone for it. All that was was a missed opportunity for Clarke.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:27 PM
3/98. Solid stuff.
Posted by: Pigeon Faggot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Bloody hell Lemming. Hooking Steyn from outside off stump isn't an optimal strategy.
Still, pretty likely we'll edge 100; wouldn't have bet against it when we lost the toss.
Also TT, thanks.
Posted by: Russ | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:43 PM
4/102. Not so solid stuff. More like pigeon poo.
Posted by: Pigeon Faggot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:46 PM
We're relying on Smarsh and Skinfolds to dig us out of a hole. I don't have a good feeling about this.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM
Here's a prediction. Smarsh will continue to work hard, and he will be the player that we'll say at the end of today "we really needed him to go on with it and get a big score". He'll only end up with something in the low 40-odd range though, and we'll just barely scrape 200.
Posted by: Carrot | Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM
The new tablet-friendly Croq is confusing.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:03 AM
Interesting little analysis during the tea break about Clarke & the shortball, by Mike Haysman.
Not only is the image quality crappy on Ch9s broadcast, the lunch & tea shows are terrible fluff pieces with no cricket analysis. Slats needs to be boned by Gyngell.
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:26 AM
as I typed that, the Saffa broadcasters segue into a Rhino/Boucher angle...
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:27 AM
Pommie Mbwangwa comes across as oily, can he be called The Unctuous One?
McLaren's dismissal of Doolan was pretty damn close to a Mo Ball!
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:31 AM
sMarsh started off skittish, but has settled down & been batting pretty decently. No flashy shots & been patient. He almost lobbed a hook to a diving Morne at fine leg just before.
Smith's been more restrained than usual, the bowlers haven't given him much to pull or cut.
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:07 AM
Skin Folds and sMarsh bring up 200. Both need to go on and get tons.
Posted by: Pigeon Faggot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:15 AM
You are far more unctuous.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:16 AM
Far more unctuous than what?
Posted by: Pigeon Faggot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:30 AM
I shudder to think how much we'd be laying into Clarke with a scoreline like this after he'd sent in a side. There's probably an equivalent South African site going into melt-down at the moment.
Posted by: Carrot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:36 AM
Well played, sMarshy!
Posted by: Carrot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:39 AM
Ton and a half ton. Top stuff.
Posted by: Pigeon Faggot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:39 AM
"Phillip Who-ghes?" asks Croq. A rare bon mot from the Pommy gits.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:43 AM
We're going to want to cash in for the next eight and a half overs. Clearly we've seen that the old ball is doing nothing, here. Similarly, we've got to hope that Johnson can approach the sort of form on this deck as he did in Adelaide - wickets when the ball gets older are going to be priceless.
Posted by: Carrot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:46 AM
Anyone looking forward toTony's follow up to "Space Oddity"?
Might owe Invers a small apology.
Posted by: Hangover Black | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:48 AM
Invers must be firmer than Superman in his trousers.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:52 AM
Pitch looks interesting, wouldn't want to bat last on it. One or two have already kept low. Smurf looking blue.
We could still be all out for 280 after the second new ball, but.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 01:59 AM
We seem to have encountered Bad Vernon. I didn't know there was one. Tuna Snorkel has been the sort of ordinary I expect from him. Steyn is always dangerous but hasn't made the ball do enough. McLaren seems to be a filth merchant, and the Peterson/JPD part-time spin cadre aren't even good enough for SGW.
I was expecting more from the #1 bowling unit group phalanx in the world, on their own turf after sending us in.
SOS and Skinny have been immense... not chance free, but they have punished the bad balls and stood up after coming together with the score at 4 for less than 100.
Smurf should be the one coming under most criticism. Poor toss decision, unimaginative field placement, let the game drift. Possibly crueled by selection?
Still very early days though.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 02:50 AM
Bloody well done, SOS! He'll revert to his mean though. What's annoying is that I couldn't sit at my usual desk at work so couldn't watch Sky, pissed me off even more not to see one of Marsh's rare tons. He shouldn't even be there and just look at that, goes and fishes the Aussies out of trouble.
Posted by: lou | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 04:01 AM
I assume the last time we were sent in and were 4/300 we went on to win the game? 5/150 in every first innings against the Poms. That was a good days cricket from our blokes. Negative from Smith - bowled first, too many over from spinners. Also I reckon thei speed gun is 5km/hr out of whack. Steyn looked down on pace. They kept talking it up, but reality was our blokes seemd to have plenty of time, certainly once the new ball faded. Great job from the inexperienced boys. Doohlan looked OK, but tapparently thats what he does, looks good and gets out.
Posted by: gillysgone | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:14 AM
Also, no wonder India us and the Poms want to run cricket. That crowd was appalling. No.1 team in the world and thats how they are supported. The seats are cheap as well.
Posted by: gillysgone | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:19 AM
Lest we slide dramatically into the realms of Space Oddity is mad. It was perfectly legitimate for me to ask precisely "why?" Shaun Marsh was picked for being "in a good space" despite numbers way down the list of Australian candidates.
Also, no one here (or pretty much anywhere else in pundit land) has a higher estimation of Invers' judgement.
I have also been a big rap for Steve Smiffy.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:38 AM
South Africa must have known they were in trouble when Australia slumped to an ominous 4 for 100.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM
It's a space opera, and SOS just sang Nessun Dorma.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM
In all fairness Gillysgone, it was a Wednesday. Hardly peak cricket-watchin' time.
Posted by: Carrot | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:16 PM
first day of the test though Carrot, between 1 and 3. There couldnt have been 5000 people there. didnt see a crowd number, but they focused more on the pools - for obvious reasons- than the actual number of people. I just found it a bit sad
Posted by: gillysgone | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM
Adcording to cricinfo, CSA are providing lots of 'fun' things, to try and attract people. The kind of things Russ's missus - and I for that matter - would approve. Not working so far, but hopefully the weekend will pick up.
Posted by: lou | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 06:43 PM
What about the barbeques. They love barbies at SA cricket.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 06:45 PM
I hope this Test turns into Graeme Smith's Edgturion, but we still have to roll them twice, which is something we have struggled to do. The longer SA hold us out, the closer we will be to getting steamrolled.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 06:48 PM
Vics are 3/0 in their second innings overnight. Ha, ha, ha. You have to laugh.
Posted by: lou | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 06:49 PM
That's what good sides do - they hold you out, then strike when you think you have their measure.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 06:50 PM
#VicsDoItBetter
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Klutzy reverts to the mean.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 08:40 PM
Android Crook is slow to update. Still 4 down.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 08:50 PM
ex-missus actually Lou. Long story, but there is a reason I will clock up 30 days at the cricket this summer.
Smarsh gone. Collapse is on, but there is something in this pitch. Enough to get rolled for 50 odd in the third dig.
Posted by: Russ | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 08:56 PM
South Africa are good at bouncing back to clean up the bottom order. Still, runs on the board are good. Mind you, Centurion is good for quick runs.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:15 PM
And 300+ is gold after being sent in.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:16 PM
Morkel averages 35 against Australia. No. Not with the bat.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:22 PM
If Snorky us replaced, it will probably be with someone who cleans us up.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:23 PM
Loving these South African Airways tourist features. Remarkable to be given such an honest view of the country.
Posted by: Cameron | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 09:54 PM
Why is Crash Test bowling?
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:13 PM
Commentators putting in a contender for the classic commentary competition. "Siddle's undergone an amazing transformation recently - going on a vegan diet. Yep, he's looking as fit as a butcher's dog".
Top stuff that!
Posted by: Hangover Black | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:29 PM
Steyn grabbed his hammy at the end of his over (#119), it made Jackman scream like a little girl in the press box.
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM
1.40pm: South Africa needed just 30 minutes of postprandial precision to round the innings up, they should be pleased with keeping Australia below 400 from the position this morning. The tourists lost 6 for 66 - a beastly collapse - after twin tons for Shaun Marsh and Steven Smith, going to show that you just cannot let your resolve waver against this SA unit.
What a shitload of a b-train full of m0nty.
3 90 fucking 7. Godly numbers.
We'll see what the Saffas can do know with all their smug coprophagy as their nation sinks into the depths of the oily sludge mire of their condescension.
All hail Skin Folds. All hail Studdsy.
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:51 PM
Now we have the ball how should we go about sleding M. Patard?
Is the old "checked genocide watch lately?" too harsh?
Posted by: Cameron | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:53 PM
In case the CA brains trust are reading here's some material:
http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
Posted by: Cameron | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM
No, it's very timely. I'm surprised that no one has boycotted the tour. No Magilla, no decency.
It's all Bradman philosophy these days.
A careerAh, in India, getting paid a brazillion!
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM
bit of material:
http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
Posted by: Cameron | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:58 PM
fucking ripper of a bouncer by Good Mitch to get Smith
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:58 PM
Good Mitch!
Bad Smurf.
But Good Mitch!
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 10:58 PM
1.4
Johnson to Smith, OUT, ripsnorting short ball, Smith in all sorts of trouble - gone!
GC Smith c Marsh b Johnson 10 (8b 2x4 0x6) SR: 125.00
The graph
On the wall
Tells the story
Of it all
Picture it now
See just how
The lies and deceit
Gained a little more power
Confidence
Taken in
By a sun tan
And a grin
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:00 PM
WG the Terrorist is flashing unnecessarily at Spearmint.
MJ has them like scared rabbits.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:03 PM
Ugly ugly start from the Saffas. Amla and Petersen don't look terribly comfortable either. But early days. Use of the new ball will decide this match, one suspects.
Posted by: Russ | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:05 PM
Invaders must die
Invaders must die
Invaders must die
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM
Amla, is next!
Amla, is next!
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM
South Africa is experiencing the Dark Enlightenment (in their trousers this time).
Posted by: Cameron | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM
Faff du Non-Plussis.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:23 PM
Naff Faf.
Posted by: Tony Tea | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:23 PM
woah
Posted by: food terroirist | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:24 PM
This is like watching that AFL preseason game from earlier tonight. Men against boys.
Posted by: m0nty | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:25 PM
Seeya, Edith.
Posted by: M. Patard | Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 11:25 PM