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Dan

The guy he hit is fine - Warner was really going for it, but he only clipped him with the edge of his fist.

Dan

Oh, and Botham's a seriously fat bloater, must weigh 20 stone, that would kill Border. That said, thare isn't a chance in hell of 5-0 so he's safe.

Cameron

Obviously a Paul Gallen fan.

Tony Tea

No doubt Warner's Latin is ropey.

David

10-2 against New Zealand. Can it get any worse than this?

Tony Tea

Gonna be a long winter.

Cameron

It can always get worse.

M. Patard

Tweet from Debbie Flintoff:

fred ✔ @flintoff11

With the bat @davidwarner31 will try and hit anything when it comes to people he just goes for the smallest ! #weak
6:37 PM - 12 Jun 2013

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2013/content/story/641109.html

According to Cricinfo and Wikipedia Warner is 1.7m (5ft 7in). Joe Root, according to Wikipedia (no stats on Cricinfo), is 1.83m (6ft). Typical guff coming from pommie fuckhead whingers.

"Following a statement issued this morning by Cricket Australia, the England and Wales Cricket Board confirms that David Warner initiated an unprovoked physical attack on a member of the England team in a Birmingham bar following England's 48-run victory over Australia," the ECB said in a statement. "Warner has admitted behaving inappropriately and has since apologised to the player involved who has accepted the apology.

"Following a full investigation the England team management has concluded that the England player was in no way responsible for nor retaliated to the attack. ECB has concluded that this is a matter for Cricket Australia and have no further comment to make."

Riiiight.

Warner just slugged Root right out of the blue for no reason whatsoever.

Note: Alastair Cook, the England captain, said that his players were fully within their rights to be out in the early hours of the morning. "You don't often get to win international games," he said. "When the schedule allows you, as long as its within certain parameters that we set as a team [and] we didn't have training for a couple of days.

That alone is sackable in Oz.

David

Yeah sure it was unprovoked.
Anyway who hasn't been out for a few beers in a walkabout pub in england and ended up in a blue having to belt some smartarse loud mouthed Pom to shut him the hell up.
I just don't see what the big deal is.

M. Patard

Best to stick with soccer I think. A man's game.

I note Chloe Saltau is covering the first leg of the Fairfax press stint in england. As complete tosspot and pantie groveller Tim Blair would say...quite so.

Carrot

Joe Root is NOT six foot - he tells the world (and cricinfo) that he's 5'6" but it's pretty well-known that he's a good few inches shorter than that. He was probably the smallest guy in the bar.

The BBC is saying that Warner "glanced" Root on the chin. So a short-arm jab, hardly bar-brawling stuff - Dennis, Jeff and the boys would have got away with it. You just can't do that in this day and age though, particularly not given the squeaky-clean, managed culture that the players exist in. It looks to me like a guy short of ideas, runs and confidence got jealous of someone else's good day at the office and then lashed out like the six-fingered oik that he is. I've no sympathy at all.

Cameron

If I was Debbie Flintoff I wouldn't be drawing attention to fighting/boxing.

Carrot

Huh, his height isn't listed on cricinfo - it was a little while ago. I think it must have been taken down because it was bullshit. The wikipedia page is a wind-up, I think - have a look at his nickname.

Cameron

5'6 is still pretty tall...for a 12 year old pom.

M. Patard

Check this pic of Joe Root and Chris Woakes

Woakes is listed as 6 ft 2 in on Cricinfo yet Root is taller.

he tells the world (and cricinfo) that he's 5'6" but it's pretty well-known that he's a good few inches shorter than that

How tall is Chris Woakes then? 5 foot?

Cameron

6'2 on his management site.

They grow so quickly when they hit puberty.

Cameron

http://www.sportism.net/cricket/joe_root

Cameron

http://www.sportism.net/cricket/joe_root

M. Patard

Maybe Woakes and Root live together in a hole in the side of a hill in Hobbiton. They garden, smoke man-sized pipes, do cryptic crosswords side by side on Sunday afternoons, and have a weekly get together with Samwise Gamgee and Frodo Baggins gasbagging about old times together and their great fear of Beorn "skin-changer" Warner.

Tony Tea

Six foot even on Wikipedia.

M. Patard

Thank you Cambro.

Carrot, you sure you've go the right Root?

Joe Root's Indian cousins produce another cricket bat hot off the production line:

Cameron

'Warner could be sent home over Root drama'

'England said in a statement the attack on their player was unprovoked and there is no dispute on that version of events from Australia, who are to hold a hearing in the next 24 hours over amid mounting pressure Warner should be sent home from the tour.'

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/warner-could-be-sent-home-over-root-drama-20130612-2o43o.html

Pressure is mounting from where? The media?

M. Patard

The pressure is always mounting when you've got a root on your hands.

There's nothing the Oz media love more than rooting any Ozzie left with a pair of balls (or 13 year old girls). It's their specialty.

Did you see Bolt & Blair had to back track pretty fast on their criticisms of Brough today? Lolz, ya gotta laugh. That Bolt is just soooo fucking precious.

Carrot

Joe Root is a midget. Trust me. He's shorter than Tendulkar. The Wikipedia page is a wind-up as I suggested. He is nowhere NEAR six foot, or six two, or whatever bogus information you're getting online. There was a long discussion about "Little Joe Root" and his background, childhood pets, got an A star in GCSE maths etc. on TMS the other day, including a remark about that his listed height in the official programme for the match (whatever match it was) was a case of him adding a few vanity inches.

.... and even if he's eight foot ten, Warner punching him in a bar was a stupid thing to do. The actions of a man who had run out of answers.

David

England and the english media are saying it was unprovoked.
I call bullshit on that. Warner may be an idiot but I doubt he'd be throwing punches for no reason at all.
There are CCTV cameras everywhere in the uk there is likely to be some footage of the incident.
Lets see it.

M. Patard

The actions of a man who had run out of answers.

Sounds like you've got the all the answers yet you weren't even there, and the evidence with regard height is against you.

For all you know Warner was too wasted to remember Root saying how much he'd like to root Warner's sister. Did ya think of that?!

What was the time, 2am? And the only people drinking with 100% bullet proof recollections of the event are the poms. How convenient. Wish I was Warner's lawyer. First rule: shut up say nothing. 2nd rule: "I don't recall."

Carrot

..... although I did miss that photo with Woakes, Pat - who IS apparently 6'2". Hmmm. That's weird. Something's not right though - he can't be both 6 foot and 6'2" at the same time. Is there anyone else on the diminutive side in the England line-up that I'm getting him mixed up with?

David

He only looks small because he stands behind 6'5" Stuart broad all the time.

M. Patard

If they're all lying about their height when they're sober, what trust can you have in their recollection of events whilst they were drunk as the correct version?

Your Honour, I'd like to call the next witness for the defense: Gandalf the Grey.

Carrot

Alright boys - serious question: when was the last time any of you punched a guy in a bar? I haven't hit another man in anger since I was about fifteen, and I don't know many others that have, either - regardless of verbal provocation. Sticks and stones, but Warner's a pissy little arsehole and deserves what's coming to him.

M. Patard

Alright boys - serious question: when was the last time any of you punched a guy in a bar?

I don't recall.

David

During the ashes series 2001.
In the walkabout in London. "Goochie" was even in the pub.
It was the Saturday evening of the test as I recall.
Whinging smartarse Pom with his mates adjacent to us was being a cock.
Kept dropping his empty gin and tonic glasses on the floor and smashing them.
He was politely asked not to do so as there were many people in open footwear in the pub.
He did it once more in a provocative manner.
Lets just say - He wasn't asked a second time.

Sometimes you have no choice.

M. Patard

Joe Root and his mates were enjoying a quiet ale at 2 am discussing the poetry of Yeats when, suddenly, Warner showed up:

M. Patard

Sometimes you have no choice.

Hear, hear, well said.

Carrot

Huh - good story, David.

I guess my point is that given all his minders, PR training, touchy-feely Cricket Australia seminars (of which there will be plenty) plus all the attention and resources that have been pumped into players in recent times to they lose their image of being alcohol-soaked dickheads, punching another player in a bar is a pretty bloody stupid thing to do.

The fact that he might have picked the smallest guy in the pub to pick on didn't do much to improve my view of things. I could be wrong about that of course, but either way: David Warner - naughty corner. Again.

m0nty

So, Ashes preparation is going well early.

Carrot

Edit: "SO THAT they lose their image of being alcohol-soaked dickheads". Sorry.

David

Have a look at the news.com.au site and their story.
Can't link to it at the moment as I'm posting on my phone.
Sounds like it was nothing. Not even a proper punch.
Seems like they went back to their beers together afterwards.

Whole thing is a storm in a teacup.
Pommy media playing it for all they can get tho.

David

Oh Dear, rain.

M. Patard

Waaait a minute, is Warner saying he's an anti-racist and that's what set him off?

Sources told Fairfax Media that Warner was of the belief that Root, 22, had been impersonating Proteas run machine Amla, who is a Muslim, and took objection.

This could be a very cynical defense, as we all know that anti-racism (which is a codeword for anti-White) trumps everything today. But, I don't credit Warner with that sort of rat cunning. Perhaps he is just a rat after all. If so, Carrot, you are correct and I stand corrected.

Tony Tea

Apparently Warner was sticking up for W.G. The Terrorist Amla. Apparently. Allegedly.

Tony Tea

"Warner has been dropped by Australia after punching England's Joe Root in the VIP area."

That's gotta hurt.

M. Patard

The diminutive Joe Root was having a few cordial ales, mixing it up with the locals with jovial banter, reciting limericks, dressing up in funny wigs and hats, all to the delight of the throng when, suddenly, Davey Boy Warner and his gang showed up:

Tony Tea

Surely there have been better stoushes than these. (Excluding Bodyline, I suppose.) Katich Clarke, the bus-sitting Indians, Sunny Gavaskar and everyone...

Cameron

So boiled down this was incident was a prepubescent looking pom, getting a punch thrown at him by a drunken ozzie prole, for impersonating a fundamentalist muslim?

Tony Tea

KPIs met.

Russ

Carrot, you are probably getting him confused with James Taylor, who was in the side last season batting with Pietersen. Now he is a midget.

6' seems about right for Root; mind you he is skinny. Warner would have several kilos on him.

gillysgone

Love this website, laughed for the last 5 minutes. Sounds like things are quiet at the champions trophy, so invent a pseudo stoush. Headline "Aussie has root trouble in bar at 2am" yet to be spotted.

Dan

The latest is that Warner took exception to Root using a magnificent frizzy green-and-canary-yellow, sorry Australian gold, wig as a joke beard.

It's not yet clear whether Warner was objecting on behalf of Australians, Muslims, Australian Muslims, or was just pissed.
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According to the Walkabout manager, Warner is "quite familiar" to staff after visiting the pub "regularly".

I love how you can use quote marks to amuse yourself.

As an aside, I have been in that Walkabout, and it's a hole (as is the whole city, to be fair). The 'VIP section' is just a little part of the pub where you are marginally less likely to be stabbed by crackheads and/or propositioned by clap-ridden whores.

There are better places to go on the razz in Brum, though admittedly most of them don't have giant murals of aboriginal blokes blowing those long tubes.

Carrot

Ha ha, Dan. Tony, any chance of a "like" tab? It does appeal to my sense of laziness.

Well, it's good to see the Poms continuing their trend of being insufferable in victory. You'd think they would have got used to that sort of thing since 2005! It makes me wonder whether there's still a slight inferiority complex after all those years of taking beatings from 1989 - 2005, and so to a point a victory over Australia is still viewed as something to really savour. You'd think it would be just another day in the office by now. Clearly not.

You'd have to wonder about the choice of pub, as well. I assume it's not the only pub in Cardiff! "Yay, we beat the Aussies, let's go to an Australian bar and take the piss in their team colours! That'll really piss them off...." In some parts of the world - er, the UK? - that would cause a riot. Anyway - I should stop before I undermine my above arguments, if I haven't already.

And ohhhhhhh...... James Taylor. Thanks Russ! As you were everyone, I clearly got that wrong.

Tony Tea

As it happens, Cardiff's not in Birmingham. It's in Glasgow.

Carrot

Oh, whoops. Thought the first match was in Cardiff, not Birmingham.

Dan

Carrot, I must admit to being torn.

On the one hand, I don't like gloatery, and as we all know pre-gloat can quickly turn very sour.

On the other hand, I've been following the Ashes for nigh-on 40 years, man and boy, and huge reservoirs of bitter, glutinous gloat have built up during that time.

It's been tapped now and then, but 2006/7 replenished the tanks with a whole lot of new super-strength gloat. Even with 2009 and last time round your place, we're close to all-time highs.

It's a force of nature, way beyond the control of any man, and the levee will burst - IF we do the bisny, which I'm not sure we will.

I got married in 1997, on the day we beat you at the Oval to save some sense of self-respect. My brother was best man with a radio under the table; I had my terrible mother in law rabbiting in one ear and my bro in the other, and we crawled over the finish line just as it came time for me to make my speech.

'It's a cliche,' I said, 'but I really am the happiest man in the world today.' Polite titters, people looking at their watches. 'Because England have just beaten the Aussies at the Oval!' Roars! Tables going over! Stamping feet!

That was a good day. Still married, too.

Tony Tea

1997, you say? The Oval, you say? I don't revel in dead rubbers. Yet.

Dan

"the day we beat you at the Oval to save some sense of self-respect"

*Some sense of self respect*

Some.

Not a lot.

This was a time when we had to be grateful for small mercies, Tony.

There was more rejoicing in heaven over one (or two that year) Test wins over the Aussies than a whitewash of Zimbabwe. Not that we could manage that either in those days, of course.

(I was actually please for Tubby Taylor when he got his hundred. What a fool I was.)

Carrot

I've often wondered about the '97 series and how completely blasé my mates and I were about it. England started with a win and everyone just shrugged their shoulders and thought "meh - whatever, we'll still win". Which we did, and went into the Oval Test 3-1 up. It was the one series during the years of dominance that England actually had a chance though, and things might have gone the other way. Not much was made about it at the time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was that the series that Paul Reiffel topped the batting averages for both sides? And Steve Waugh averaged 38, but still essentially won us the series at Headingley (I think?) with two centuries in the match?

BTW - David, if you're still reading the thread, I hope you didn't misunderstand my "Huh, good story" remark. You might have read it thinking that I was being sarcastic. I meant that it WAS a good story - made more so that it centred around the Ashes.

Tony Tea

Coincidentally, my second ever post from 11 years ago:

DAY WON

1 for 268. Great.

No really. It is. I've no hankering for a close contest. The Poms time'll come again. And when they finally win an Ashes series they'll absolutely give it to us! Remember the first Test in 1997? They won by nine wickets and their papers went berserk. Let's lap it up while we can.

Carrot

Did the papers go berserk? My memory is obviously shorter than I think. I was at College, in Sydney Uni then - lots of sleepness nights in front of the cricket that year.

Dan

Carrot - I remember thinking Elliott was a very good opening bat, and that Bevan was a weak link. From a pure cricket point of view, I hoped Mark Taylor would come good, because I thought he was an excellent captain and bloke.

We'd won the ODIs and the media were talking Emgland up but people who actually played and watched cricket, and followed the game overseas (ie me, my brother and our mates) were a bit sceptical.

So it proved. We got away with a lucky draw in the second Test but were then hammered three times in a row.

I'm not sure about Reiffel, though I remember him being a big thorn in Gough and caddick's sides. A really good, miserly bowler, too - how come he didn't play more games?

Big Ramifications

Six months ago, when I first did a Google Image search for my boy Dudley Root [or are we calling him Joe Camel?] I was greeted with pix of a posh white bread no-chinned youth with a boy band hairdo. I had a bit of a laff to myself. He looked like such an unlikely type to be knocking on the door for selection.

Combined with his extremely unfortunate surname, that's more than enough to inspire some push and shove from a drunken lunkhead roydhead like Ravey Davey Warner.

ps: In late, after a busy last couple days. I haven't read any updates since the initial "Warner Root beer whack" reports. I hope my tardiness hasn't lead me to unesessarily SLANDER anyone. Crikey!

Russ

The papers went berserk. But also... England always thought they were a chance coming into series.

In 1989 Australia had been rubbish for years. They may well have been rubbish, but England were the worst they have ever been, ever probably will be between '85 and '90...

In 1993 Australia had lost to the West Indies at home (by 1 run, but lost), drawn in New Zealand, the batting lineup was all over the place, Waugh's were being dropped, Boon was refusing to open, kids were being picked on the back of one Shield season, McDermott got injured in the first test, Reid was out, as were several others. Warne was a new kid who'd never been to England...

In 1997 the batting was declining, the top three disastrous, Taylor was in horrid form, Boon was gone, Elliott and Blewett weren't that good - no really, their career record attests; McGrath, Kasprowicz and Gillespie had never been to England (which showed in the first test), injuries galore, Reiffel wasn't even selected despite his record in England but made the second test (*grumble* specialist, quality player, no "X-factor" *grumble* f%$&king Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson...*grumble*) England weren't far from making this series a contest, but that was the best attack Australia has ever had, particularly in England - so tight, it didn't even matter the batting was shit...

In 2001 Australia were coming off a loss in India, and that led to a certain hopefulness, though the English media had been burned so many times even they didn't think they could win that year.

But there were vulnerabilities. The '97 side wasn't that good. The '98-99 tour was almost a 2-2 draw. That middle period before Gilchrist turned up, Australia wasn't that good. After that, for about 7 years, notwithstanding a very unlucky loss in 2005, they were ridiculously good, but different teams really.

m0nty

Dudley of the indeterminate profile sounds like a real entertainer. Racist jokes using a green and gold wig like an Amla beard? All he needed was to be wearing a dress, and he could tour that on the West End. Culture, yeah right Gower you smug bastard.

Mind you, I wouldn't have known which side to take, because Cow is well named, if you read it through the FanFooty swear filter.

Carrot

That all makes sense to me, Russ. The thing was that growing up it was just assumed that we would beat England. All we'd have to do was turn up, we were just that good and they were just that rubbish. I think the first time that it occurred to me that that wasn't necessarily the case was when I read Steve Waugh's autobiography (i.e. the Big Green Brick, or the only book by a cricketer that I went out of my way to buy as soon as it was available). It's all pretty standard tour diary stuff for the most part, but it does make it clear that the Australians weren't cocky at all and had to work pretty hard for their wins.

2005 will always be the One That Got Away, although I think 2009 deserves that mantle as well. Were it not for fifty overs lost in Cardiff, we'd have won that match at a canter and retained the urn. That was the real beginning of the end for me - ridiculous collapses and Johnson bowling tripe. Sadly it's been pretty much downhill ever since.

Carrot

..... Interesting length of ban for Warner, by the way. You'd have to think that the matches against Somerset at Worcester would be pretty essential to everyone's preperation, wouldn't you? Is this a message that he's still an automatic pick (in which case, surely you'd give him a chance to have some time in the middle before the first Test?) or that he's definitely on the outer and that they're looking at other options?

That's the thing with these team-imposed bans - there's no independent judicial system, so any suspensions will still be made according to the best interests of the team in mind.

I'd LOVE to be a fly on the wall for some of these internal conversations, by the way. Was it "Dave, that's it, that's the last straw, you're out until the first Test, take your medicine" or was it "shit mate, he was wearing a green and gold wig in a Walkabout of all places. Anyone else would've done the same thing. But - there's the press, the PR guys, the kids back home, whaddayagunna do? You'll be alright though, you probably need a few nets anyway." Similarly was it "Seriously, he hit you? What happened? ..... So let me get this straight, you were wearing a green and gold wig in a Walkabout in view of the Australian players, not to mention the public? You idiot, what were you thinking?" or perhaps more likely "mission accomplished Joe - well done. One of them was bound to take the bait, now they've suspended one of their best players, and the press are lapping it up!"

David

Yeah Carrot, I'm still here, just been busy the last day or so.
Don't sweat it, I took your comment exactly as you meant it!

Looks like the whole Warner Gets Root thing was nothing, just a bunch of blokes on the piss and a small disagreement leading to nothing. Sort of thing you'll see every weekend in both Aus and the UK.
Can't believe Warner was suspended over it - the wowsers got their scalp I guess.

I well remember the 97 Oval test, I had a ticket for that last day. My stepdad was over from Aus so I gave him my ticket. After all it was likely to be the only time in his life he'd get to go to an Ashes test in England. I couldn't not give it to him really, could I?
So I sent him off and asked my mates (all of them English) to look after him and show him a good time.
Well they did that in spades - they, and the surrounding crowd, gave him heaps all day long. He gave them loads back no doubt but all of it was really good natured.... and they got him absolutely and completely hammered.
He had a fantastic day - that's the kind of thing that makes the Ashes so good.
He still tells me to this day though, that he was pissed off with me for sending me off to see the boys lose!

Big Ramifications

Likes the cut of Joe Root's jib:

...and doesn't understand what all the fuss is about.

Big Ramifications

On Thursday when I Googled the terms "after grog" something v.interesting happened " [do you believe I’ve never bookmarked this blog – I always navigate here via a search].

Google normally returns AGB proper as the #1 result, and below it I usually find two sub-links to recent AGB Cricket posts. Yesterday, Google returned a link to this thread and a link to an almost decade old AGB post. The hell?! A ten year old link in the top 3?

Earlier the same day I received an email tip that Dudley Root was playing.. how shall we say.. dress-ups just prior to becoming the punchline to the running joke that is Ravey Davey Warner.

And Mahatma Cote was the very first thing I thought of, heh!

Tony, having a very vague idea of how I think Google algorithms work, does that mean a crap-ton of other IMPORTANT WEBSITES have suddenly linked to your ancient Mahatma Cote post? Is it somehow related to this recent Shoeless Joe saga? Sorry, I meant Racist Joe.

Big Ramifications

http://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/2003/12/fat_saca_shit.html

Y'all remember 20 years ago when Sir Guy the Gorilla stormed out of an important function coz an Aussie comedian was dressed as the Queen? That was the other first-thing I thought of.

Botham and Gooch created a mini-storm when they strode out mid-meal on the eve of the 1992 World Cup decider against Pakistan at the MCG, taking offence to Australian comedian Gerry Connolly's impersonation of the Queen.


Fifteen years later, Botham's beef with the comic SHOWS NO SIGNS OF SUBSIDING [you idiot]. The legendary all-rounder now says he never wanted to attend the gala dinner in the first place.


"It would never happen now on the eve of a World Cup final. Paraded in, sat down - really don't want to be there. Got my mind a million miles away," a grumpy Botham told a UK sports history website.


"World Cup final, 1992, last game I'm going to play, big game in a big arena, retire the following summer ... and I'm there and I've got some POOFTER GAY GUY comes on stage in drag with a stuffed corgi under his arm and takes the piss out of the Queen.


"Why should I put up with that? If it was done the other way around and he came in with a turban on his head and took the mickey out of the Pakistan team it would be called racism."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/sir-ians-beef-over-queen/2007/09/27/1190486465797.html

Big Rammer's mum

Will ya ease up on all the nicknames there, Turbo.

Christ on a bike. My head is spinning. I can hardly tell Arthur from Martha, reading your comments.

Big Ramifications

I've got absolutely no issue with Botham's reason for storming out of the World Cup function. Queenie had greatness thrust upon her at such a young age, and she became a much loved, unfaltering figurehead whose reign spanned generations. Amongst her highlights was watching one of her sons fight in a war, becoming a kindred spirit with thousands of other worried "commoner" parents. She's the real deal.

But a 15 year old grudge at the time of writing?! 15 years??! I couldn't hold a bitter grudge for half as long if you paid me. And resorting to uncultured, offensive slurs to get his point across. What an absolute farking clown. Get over yourself.

Comedian in drag = homosexual man. Got it.

Tony Tea

Warner got an "Oliver" - a suspension which finishes just before an important event. Mind you, it's looking more like there were rock all in the rumpus apart from piss and bad manners.

Tony Tea

I wonder what Gerry Connolly is up to these days? A look at IMDb and Wiki says he not exactly been prolific of late. I guess Queen impersonations have a use-by date.

Tony Tea

PS: I have not noticed any Richie/Fat Cat/Mahatma mentions in my referrers.

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The Mongrel

Joe Root and his mates were enjoying a quiet ale at 2 am discussing the poetry of Yeats

Root: How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face.

Warner: Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

lou

Warner became a rough beast, his hour come round at last.

What were any of them doing in a Walkabout bar? Absolute shitholes.

lou

Well, apart from Mitch Marsh of course. He'd drink anywhere.

M. Patard

Remorse For Intemperate Speech

I RANTED to the knave and fool,
But outgrew that school,
Would transform the part,
Fit audience found, but cannot rule
My fanatic heart.
I sought my betters: though in each
Fine manners, liberal speech,
Turn hatred into sport,
Nothing said or done can reach
My fanatic heart,
Out of Ireland have we come.
Great hatred, little room,
Maimed us at the start.
I carry from my mother's womb
A fanatic heart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVH13zuL2a4

M. Patard

Don't worry about all that Anglo doom and gloom.

That poem has been thrown up at me from the best the "conservatives" have got, yet,

none of them hve ever explained to me how:

I sought my betters: though in each
Fine manners, liberal speech,
Turn hatred into sport,

They just wanna focus on the last stanza.

Big Ramifications

Hey Pat, I watched the first half of Boondock Saints last night. An effen fantastic movie so far. Erm, in a Guy Ritchie / Snatch kind of way.

How badass, yet intriguing, was the opening couple of minutes?

M. Patard

Watched that movie on a recommendation from Cam. It was ok. The opening could be blasphemous if the service wasn't Novus Ordo, but as it is, yes, a great opening.

I say service cause it isn't a Mass. That Church is in Boston. Note the priest faces the congregation like your typical Protestant meal service. The boys walk up to where the true sacrifice is, where the priest used to face, the orient wall, where the tabernacle should be.

M. Patard

Warner should team up with this bloke for next drinking session.

Stinking goyims, they ruin everything. EVERYTHING!!!

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