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Lou

The amount of time-wasting the English team gets up to, they are the worst around now that they are continually playing for draws, the Saffers were owed more than one extra ball.

Tony

I reckon England learnt their time-wasting tricks under Fletcher. Now that he is at SA will the Varks try the same tactics.

Hewy

Re 'know ball'. Just use the rule from Indoor cricket - ask the batsmen whether he wants the no-ball or wide rebowled. But is it really that big a deal?

Re timewasting. Comedian Stephen Fry gave a speech at Lords in 2009 directly after the Cardiff test match...

I have been asked to say a few words – well more than a few. “You’ve twenty minutes to fill,” I was firmly told by the organisers. 20 minutes. Not sure how I’ll use all that time up. Perhaps in about ten minutes or so Andrew Strauss would be kind enough to send on a physio, that should kill a bit of time.

Tony

You know something? I must have had a strange dream. Going back to the early Noughties, I swear I saw a Test match, probably from the West Indies, in which the team batting last pulled some astounding strokes - that's strokes as in sly maneuvers, not strokes as in cricket shots - to drag a Test out into the half light and get the umps to call off the match. Fake injuries, fake sickness, fake new gloves, fake pitch gardening, fake pretend I can't see, fake can I take guard please, fake chats mid-picth, you name it. Every ball was followed by a performance of Orson Welles-like invention. For ages I assumed it was the Shrees v the Windies, but looking though the list of draws between ALL Test nations I'm buggered if I can find the match. I first got Foxtel in January 2000 and I don't think the match was later than 2003.

Anyway, here's the list. Anyone got any idea which match it might be, or have I lost the plot?

Hewy

Not sure if this is what you were talking about, but there was a Pakistan v England test match in Pakistan. England were chasing on the last day and it was getting down to the wire regarding both runs and wickets. Moin Kahn was captain and he was trying every trick to extend the game into the dark where it would be a draw or Pakistan would pick up the wickets and win. England refused to come off but, ironically, it got so dark that it was easier to bat than it was to field - when you're batting the ball is only coming from one spot and there's a white screen behind it. England got plenty of runs whilst the fielders were standing around not knowing where the ball went to, and went on to win.

Thre was of course the famous 1992 world cup semi final SA vs England. The common story is that SA got screwed by the rain delay calculations. What is rarely mentioned is that when England batted, the rain was supposedly coming late in their innings and Kepler Wessels did everything in his power to hold the game up to try to prevent England from scoring any more runs till it rained and SA could chase a comfortable revised target. The storm clouds passed over, it didn't rain, and Kepler's tactics actually meant that their innings didn't start till much later and then the rain came when they had only two overs left - which was actually well after the scheduled close of play. And so began a proud history of big tournament choking.

Tony

No, I'm pretty sure it's not Pak v Eng.

Did you see that South Africa finished top of their group in the U19s in New Zealand, but got slapped out in the quarter final by the Shrees?

Lou

And the sixth seed Aussies are through to the semis on the back of Mitchell Marsh's first decent batting performance. How one does laugh.

Carrot

It was in the Caribbean, Tone - and it was a pair of West Indies tail-enders doing pulling the stalling tactics. I think it MIGHT have been West Indies vs. Sri Lanka - maybe India, one of the two. I think one of the more stupid tactics was a call for a new pair of gloves at the end of an over, followed by a new bat the next over, and then the physio the next. It might not have been exactly like that, but it was definitely pretty blatant. I seem to remember Brian Lara, who was in one of his spells of not being captain, apologising profusely to the other side at stumps.

It's a pretty clear-cut example of what we've been talking about in the AGB lately, namely that bad behaviour is definitely not something that is restricted to Australian sides, they just get away with it less.

Tony

Carrot,

Thanks, brilliant. I've been puzzling about that for ages. Figured it was a visiting team that pulled the strokes and searched accordingly, but your tip led me to hunting down matches in which the Windies held on for a draw via dodgy shenanigans.

West Indies v South Africa, 3rd Test, 2001, Barbados.

Easily the worst time-wasting I've seen. I remember wondering at the time that if the umpires were powerless to prevent such blatant time-wasting, then they were virtually powerless to prevent any time-wasting.

Carrot

Glad to help- even if the Shrees and Injuns suggestions were bum steers! How do you search a statistics engine for time-wasting?

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