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Mark

"emptying as fast as the sugar bowl at an Indian tea party."

What?

I thought the whole idea of the tea drinking ritual in Indian was that you didn't use sugar.

On all things relating to the strength Australian cricket, I'm reserving judgment until around September 2009!!

Tony T

The 2009 Ashes is definitely something to look forward to, Mark. Most everything since last (our) summer has been a let down.

Speaking of the Ashes...

Beyond argument, Troy Cooley deserves some of the credit for the turnaround. England was mad to let him go after the Ashes series. Apparently the stumbling block was his insistence on a two-year contract, the least of his deserts after he had played his part in producing the formidable bombardment seen in 2005.

Those responsible for his ousting should be hung, drawn and quartered. More likely they will be knighted, as that appears to be the custom these days in the old country.

That ought to make you feel good.

Scott Wickstein

Is Lee a better bowler then he was in 2003? I think so, but it would be good to find out against an Indian batting line up that still is capable of monstering bowling that isn't quite good enough.

I see that Larry T. has been picked in the 12 for Boxing Day. All the momentum in the media seems to be leaning towards picking him, (BJ & the Boys last night, for example) but I still wonder if they'll pick him for a Melbourne pitch that doesn't look to be offering much life. Ditto Sydney.

Personally I think the First and Second Tests are going to be the hard ones. Looking at the WACA lately, it should be Duck Season on the Indians given the pace and carry it's been showing. That 20-20 game wasn't a one off, either- WA gave the SA Redbacks a torrid time last week to boot.

But our bowling isn't what it was, and how can it be? I think our batting is as strong as it has ever been, and India had trouble bowling out Pakistan, so it's hard to see them giving us much trouble. But I see more drawn Tests in our future, until the next deadset Australian legend emerges, just in time to wipe out the swinish Poms in 2009.

Carrot

You're wrong. This team is as good as it's ever been. Even McGrath and the boys had a bad day at the office every now and again - you're not always going to run through sides.

And even if we weren't that great with the ball (and I think we are), if we're consistently defending 500+ totals we aren't going to lose many matches, are we?

Tony T

Well, Carrot old ranger, neither Wicky nor myself think the Aussies are instantly for the tip. But nor do I think we'll be able to consistently run through sides.

And it's true our batting is still good and depthy (That's probably not a word, but you get the drift.). But somehow I can see 300+ targets chased down.

India, Pakistan then the Windies, all on spin-friendly decks, will be a good short term demonstration of where we're going.

fredfillis

Seems from afar that we have some half decent quicks around but its the tweakers that are a bit thin (sorry, Stewie) on the ground. Don't see anyone around that has the potential to be a match winner except on very tweak friendly tracks.

Maybe the time has come to forget the old codgers and get a young bloke or two a go over the next 18 months. So, I'd be in favor of 4 quicks when the track suits and when it doesn't give a younger bloke the chance to learn at the highest level.

Tony T

The tweakers are difinitely a worry considering we're about to play India, the Pakistan over there. What's the bet in Pakistan they serve up dead pitches. Then where will we be. Unless, of course, our quicks can perform some 80s Windies muggings.

pat

You're not wrong Tone. Sadly all too true. Time to bring back Dizzy.

Scott Wickstein

Depthy. I like it. Call the Oxford Australian Dictionary at once.

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