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Was Glass half fit or half unfit?

More on the West Coast fans. Hinds doesn't go in hard enough for me. Nevertheless:

Zealotry of West Coast fans isn't for the birds

THE AFL is a national competition, but the atmosphere is distinctly different as you cross borders.

In Melbourne, there are the spiteful suburban rivalries that mean fans take as much satisfaction from a hated "neighbour's" defeat as from their own club's victory.

South Australians froth at the mouth at perceived injustices and anti-Adelaide conspiracies — all of them the work of despised Victorians.

There is the happy-clapping of Sydney fans, who live by the success of the Swans, but still don't quite die by it.

In sunny Brisbane, there is the constant murmur broken by the occasional roar — much like when a wicket falls in a Test.

And, at Subiaco, there is the zealotry of West Coast fans whose unshakable faith in their team's innate superiority can make you feel as if you are at a political rally in a totalitarian state rather than at a football match. Eagles Uber Alles.

Read on.

If Collingwood beat Geelong (about as likely as Rudd not winning, sadly), Port will thump them in the final. I will then move to Melbourne until season 2008 starts, with the money I will win by backing Port. I did the same in 2004. When Port won, I collected $$$. If Port had lost, it would have been worth it.

ps Perhaps the Crows and Demons could team up and kick each other in the ass...for squandering a year when they both should have been involved deep into the ridiculously named Septopia.

pps I see your Mozz and raise.

Definitely a mozz. I'd much rather Geelong win, but it's just as definitely a gut feeling. If a definite gut feeling is possible.

Labor are dead certs.

Collingwood fans have a brilliant nickname for Tyson Goldsack, who has done a sterling job this season in defence: Fort Nuts.

"'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred. "

It is with much sadness I wear the Blue and Gold, flags over the glass doors, and streamers gently waving. The mrs says I lack faith, but I know bitter truth. Even though the guilotine beckons I wear the Blue and the Gold and say "C'mon Parra, go you bastards. Do me proud."

"Because I do not hope to turn again
Because I do not hope
Because I do not hope to turn
Desiring this man’s gift and that man’s scope
I no longer strive to strive towards such things"

Parra leading 12-6 at half time but it is not enough. The Bulldog cunts will draw the ref to even up the count. Mama Mary, Pray for us. No distastro, I beseech thee. C'mon Eels. Do it for me. For God, Queen, Convict Ancestry and Me!

Pat, sounds like you're channelling the 1998 semi-final.

Go you mighty Eels, Mama Mary has prayed for thee. Although I did not hope to turn you reached around and smothered me. Intoxicated by your backline efferbescence, I drank it in and savoured - VICTORY!. Go you Eels. C'mon the Mighty Parrra , clap clap clap Parra, clap clap clap...The mighty Fucking Eels. Blue and Gold Forever.

"I caught this morning morning's minion, king-
dom of daylight's dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
As a skate's heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
Stirred for a bird, - the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!"


I wish I had your faith in Collingwood, Tony, but IF Port get over Norf, they'll probably knock off the poys. And another Port premiership would be unbearable.

Mind you, Port have a shocking record against Norf so the Prelim final is no certainty for Port.

Who the fuck are the Eels, anyway?

Here's the list of LOVE YOU's:

Love YOU:

Gordon Tallis.

Warren Ryan.


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The biggest LOVE YOU must go to Steve Folkes: You looked great in grid-iron shoulder pads when you smashed the Eels in '84. We just weren't good enough on the day. SMOOCHIES.

[Edited by Tony.]

Love you Canterbury doggies. Woof. Woof.

[Edited by Tony.]

The "I reckon you're pretty good even though I don't barrack for you" list:

Sonny Bill Williams.

The entire Bulldogs forawrd pack.


Perry and Hughes.

Hazim El Magic.


The entire Bulldgs team base.

[Edited by Tony.]

...and I thought AFL barrackers were passionate!

I still don't know who the Eels are, but nevermind....

Whoa! Got a bit carried away there. Sorry about that one and all. Please ignore me I'm just not used to winning.

Scott, the Eels are the Parramatta Rugby League team. Our number one despised enemy is the Bulldogs which contributed to my above insanity.

Geelong. Collingwood won't beat them, and nor will Port. In fact, I think they will flog both of them, and it will be back to dull grand finals.

Then again, I'm a St Kilda supporter who thinks Howard's still a chance.

You might just notice some changes to comments up there. On the off chance you missed them, they are marked [Edited by Tony.].

These redactions are certainly reflective of the litigious nature of modern society, but more importantly, they reflect Pat's sudden, newfound and unalloyed affection for the Canterbury Bulldogs, their players, coaching staff, officials and fans.

Go Storm!

Tony, you are a gentleman. If you could also erase all evidence from Google cache that too would be appreciated. Mon Dieu, talk about wake in fright!

I knew I had issues with the Bulldogs but never realised just how profoundly disturbing they are. Hoowee, sorry about that. I'm off for a week of quiet self-reflection.

Tony, it's not the best idea to base your opinions on what you saw fifteen years ago. Next thing you know, you'll be buying MC Hammer CDs and parachute pants.

Granted it's a while since I lived there, but that doesn't mean I'm suddenly out of touch, or that WA is suddenly any less parochial about footy.

Coincidentally, out of the 50-odd text messages I send or receive during every WC or Wanchor match, the last was "When the siren goes be sure you wave bye to Juddy".

"Why do you think Dockers tragic, Matt Price, spends countless column inches caning the Eagles? He knows how nauseating WC fans are."

The reason Matt does this and the Freo supporters chime in is because they have this chip-on-the-shoulder, half-arsed, class-based, pathetic, infantile hatred of the Eagles FC, who they know deep down are better than they are.

How else can we explain why they can get themselves into a berserker rage twice a year to play the Eagles, only then realising their true winning potential, when the rest of the time they play like squealers?

They all need to grow up and develop a mature, deadly focussed hatred like WCE have for all their opponents.

Now wonder you all hate us, we frighten you.

And well done Collingwood.

I'm philosphical. Here's one for Pat ...

I HAVE desired to go
Where springs not fail,
To fields where flies no sharp and sided hail
And a few lilies blow.

And I have asked to be
Where no storms come,
Where the green swell is in the havens dumb,
And out of the swing of the sea.

Last word on Benny. I objected to the stupid, endless focus on this issue because I saw it more as a young man in big, big trouble - fighting addiction is no picnic and he will be figthing it for every day of the rest of his life. I admire his guts in winning the fight, and running out onto a footy field in front of the scrutiny of 40,000+ people every weekend and not wimpering like a baby in a dark corner.

I can remember what Perth was like during the 1991-94 finals. I have, in the study somewhere, a videotape of collected excerpts from the 1992 coverage, including the '92 victory celebrations. Even today, it's a cringeworthy watch.

The aftermath of the 2006 flag wasn't a patch on what happened then.

I know that a lot of people lay the blame for killing State of Origin at Mick Malthouse's feet. Personally, I like to blame that deformed hideous beast called the Allies but, to be honest, probably the biggest reason why SoO died out over here in the West is that there just isn't that insanely xenophobic hatred for all things Victoria that I so clearly remember - and, yes, participated in - in the late 80's and early '90s. The sort of hatred that got John Todd a coaching gig when, as one wag once commented, his entire gameplan revolved around sending the Eagles out to play Victoria every week.

Besides, Melbourne's a kickarse fun town. What's to hate?

If Port beat the Kangaroos they will win the Big One. I will be happy, though whatever the result, the Crows can't win and that's very important to me.

Os, you misunderstand Docker supporters. We KNOW the gulls are a good side; we can even appreciate that they may be better than Freo. What we detest is the smug, elder-brother, pat-on-the-head condescension from Eagles fans whom we wouldn't cross the road to piss on if they were on fire.

That's because your piss is so full of Rebel Yell you'd turn into a flame thrower:-)

So, now the lineup's settled, TT, who're you backing in?

Let me think about it overnight, tONE.

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