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My thoughts exactly- also, where was the electrical current coming from to keep ignition going? What a load of bollocks. Also, if it went into the hard from 30,000 ft, how were there any survivors? Humans don't tend to walk away too often from a 4-500 knot impact.

Cool video of an idiot being sucked into a jet engine can be downloaded here. (The "Why do people get sucked into Jet Engines?" link.)

I've seen better versions but can't be bothered doing a huge search.

I suppose we are to apply a "willing suspension of disbelief" as my Lit instructor told me way back when but I saw the promos for this stuff here in the states and didn't even bother to watch.

As a side note, the survivability rate of airplane accidents is actually something around 85%. You'd be surprised how many people walk away from crashes where plans make bad landings at 200 knots. However if you plow into an island at 400 knots at a sharp angle from altitude that goes down by oh, 2 orders of magnitude...

All this linear thinking will make you crazy. It's fiction because it isn't true. That's the point. A retarded capacity to suspend disbelief is nothing to be proud of. And by the way the pilot is only an actor, you know.

So you prefer the highly realistic scientific methods employed in Jurassic Park, eh, Tony?

That Mr. DNA was highly convincing, I have to admit.

Like I say, I have no trouble suspending belief for sci-fi, medi-fi and general fantasy, but stupid gadgetry is just a personal Betty Noir.

That bloody great engine sitting there taunting me; it got me upset.

Bastard!

Well, I'd suspend disbelief for while in order to see what a fat bloke would look like going through a spooled up Pratt & Whitney PW4168A.

It's entertainment not history, Tony. Next you'll be complaining that Hellboy violates several well tested laws of thermodynamics.

I think Tony should make at least one post a week deconstructing engineering badness as demonstrated in the world of TV and film.

According to the IMDB, Withnail & I has some terrible errors as well... Barcodes! It makes my blood boil.

My pet hate is...
what happens to all the bullets that miss?
I saw a guy in front of a glass wall as he was gertting shot at by an m-16 and none of the windows broke.

LOL, you sound like me watching a movie. Myself, being an engineering technician and a factual person, despises Hollywood crap! Air Force One as I recall was the worst piece of shit for that. So many things in that movie just sucked. I was told by my husband "Just shut up and watch it and suspend belief, okay" but man, it was hard! And another movie Six Days, Seven Nights with Anne Heche and Harrison Ford. :P Stupid suspension of all belief necessary as I recall.

Bit of a toss-up as to the most idiotic airborne scene in a feature film- I'm torn between Arnie and some Gyppo having a punch-on around the nose of a Hawker Sea Harrier in hover mode with neither being turned into pink mist after being slurped into the intakes, let alone the thing crashing in a ball of burning kero due to no-one flying the fucking thing (True Lies) and a scene where terrorists enter a C5 Galaxy through the refueling tube from a KC135 and take over said transport in order to swipe two F117s, despite the fact that they would have to be about 10 cm wide to fit through the tube, would have been chopped up by pump inpellers and sliced up by baffles them drowned in a sealed tankful of avtur (The Interceptor). Tough ask.

Now c'mon. You people.

I don't have a problem with obvious fantasy and stuff like that. It's the stuff where suspension of belief isn't an issue, but where ignorance is. The average shnook doesn't know how things work, and Hollywood plays on that.

The British, on the other hand, are more subtle.

Withnail: "The fucking kettle's on fire!

I noticed exactly the same thing mate. It turned out to be a deal breaker for me. As soon as the guy got sucked up into the engine I headed for the PC to play Rome:Total War.

The engine intact and upside down was the killer. The things are supposed to fall off in an impact, yet this one had miraculously stayed connected and fuelled.

I will try again as it came highly recommended by friends in the States, but the opening sequence was utterly contrived and crap. And not good crap.

Agreed, Bruce. The thrust is good; plane crashees marooned on island getting eaten by monsters. I like that in a movie. But the dodgy engine stuff? No, no, that just goes too far; totally unbelievable.

Tony, do you think they left the scene where they repair the Jaguar out of the final cut of Withnail because it did not pay enough attention to accurate mechanical detail? Bruce Robinson's big on that kind of shit.

A wise choice on Bruce's part, Ed. The way these things work, budget-wise, there's every chance they would have replaced the jag engine with a lawn mower motor.

I might have noticed that.

Well, you are gonna shoot coke out your nose when you find out the reason the emergency beacon can't be heard is because they crashed BACK IN TIME!
And there's a fucking Polar Bear too, allegedly. I too got frustrated with the contrived plot and went straight for the US episode guides.

Saw the Polar Bear Thursday night, CB.

One the whole though, you've landed smack bang on my point. I love time travel movies, Polar Bears in the tropics and all sorts of fantasy craziness. They are all sensible in a suspension-of-belief way. But I simply refuse to compromise on dodgy gadgetry and machinery run amok. That's taking it all too far.

Finally saw it the other night and talk about suspension of disbelief. Especially the dialogue. The show has a good initial premise but they just recycled every line you've ever heard anyone say in a TV miniseries.

And the polar bear looked pretty fake. Obviously James Caan in a white rug is cheaper than CGI these days.

Time travel works for me nearly every time, Nab. At least to start with.

The set-up's fine, even if the details are bogus. So far, so good.

I'm told it wasn't Caan, he was in Vegas.

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What am I looking for, Far-Q? The Tremors picture? Good fillums, those. Most chuckle-worthy. Who'd ever think Michael Gross would do good work?

so how dumb do you feel now?

Reality bites.

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