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Well, good on him for coming straight out with it rather than hiding behind all the usual bunkum as so many cheats do.

However, I'm fairly sure that whatever he got paid to underperform and a couple of IPL seasons worth of cash that he isn't going to be heading into the dole office anytime soon.

Tony Tea

He would not have been paid enough to buy back his loss respect, self-esteem and the goodwill of his peers.


Trust a kiwi to be blunt and cop it sweet. Funny how it is never mentioned how much money he got paid. Authorities must always know how much they get paid. Maybe he was embarrassed how little it was.


I'm guessing it was a fair amount, not a pittance. Regardless of how much it was some people are prepared to put a dollar figure on their self-respect and reputation.

Tony Tea

The kicker is that they don't expect to get caught, so they don't think about the ramifications. If they are not caught, they are unlikely to offer up a juicy mea culpa. Would Vincent have laid it on the table had he not been sprung?

Tony Tea

Do we actually know precisely what he did? Was it a match fix or a spot fix or some other sneaky sting?


It might not actually have been that much. Hansie Cronje threw a match/under-performed/got someone else to under-perform (can't quite remember) for a leather jacket, if I recall correctly. Some people just like the feel of cash, and/or are naturally reckless, self-destructive risk-takers. Vincent's depression will certainly have been a factor in that, despite his remarks to the contrary - feels crap about himself and his career, life seems meaningless, feels like he doesn't deserve to be happy because of poor self-image, is given the opportunity to prove that he's a "bad" person by doing bad things, feels worse by consequence, repeat. Potentially the same sort of process as juvenile crime from otherwise well-off kids, and/or self-harming.

Re: self-respect and self-esteem - this could actually be part of a vaguely AA-type atonement process and will actually make him feel better than you'd think. By admitting his mis-deeds he probably feels like he can move on from them, as opposed to ignoring and suppressing the fact that he was "that" guy.


PS - just had a listen to some of the interview that's on cricinfo. It certainly doesn't look good for Chris Cairns, assuming that's the identity of the un-named "hero" - it could be anyone, but it's certainly an easy conclusion to draw given that we know he was playing ICL, too. That said, the ICL was a rebel league, and when they asked the ICC for help with fixing they were told to go jump. I'm sure that Lalit Modi's lawyer's will be interested if it's proven that Cairns was involved in any of that given the recent court case and settlement, but can you be banned for life and thrown out of the game for fixing matches in unsanctioned leagues? Interesting times.


Eurgh, take out the apostrophe in "lawyers".


I could have told Lou Vincent: "this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you".

Tony Tea

I would have thought Lou Bega was more his style.


m0nty. Genius.

Professor Rosseforp

m0nty, agreed with gillysgone, brilliant comment.

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