Comments on PRE-EMPTIVE STEVETypePad2008-04-12T13:18:06ZTony Teahttps://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/2008/04/pre-emptive-ste/comments/atom.xml/os commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551d4861588332008-04-15T06:21:20Z2008-04-15T06:21:21ZosAgree, he's a goner for sure and he knows it, he's done the mea culpa and asked them to give...<p>Agree, he's a goner for sure and he knows it, he's done the mea culpa and asked them to give him a good whacking.<br />
I feel very noble, putting Barry's case like that - just like Julian Burnside or Terry O'Gorman.</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e9f00188342008-04-15T02:52:48Z2008-04-15T02:52:48ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/You know what. I agree it was fluke hit. But that's not going to get him off.<p>You know what. I agree it was fluke hit. But that's not going to get him off.</p>os commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e9de7f88342008-04-15T02:37:01Z2008-04-15T02:37:01ZosIt was an interesting punch. He wound up from in front of Staker, the length and alignment was already set...<p>It was an interesting punch. He wound up from in front of Staker, the length and alignment was already set by the time he had spun to face him, and clipped him clean as a whistle on the jaw. I wonder how deliberately premeditated it was, it was more of a jag than anything I reckon.<br />
Also, before the brain explosion, Staker was holding him and before BBB tried to shrug the hold off, he had been calling to the ump to give him the protection he was entitled to from Staker's interference. He didn't get it because the ump subconsciously applies a different standard to a stronger player.<br />
He decided to protect himself, and the synapses did the rest.</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e7319588342008-04-14T08:17:36Z2008-04-14T08:17:37ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/West Coast Karma is out to get Hall. He should not have been allowed to play in the 2005 GF....<p>West Coast Karma is out to get Hall.</p>
<p>He should not have been allowed to play in the 2005 GF.</p>
<p>That much is given.</p>
<p>But since punching McGuire in the guts in the 2005 Preliminary Final and subsequently having his charge downgraded, he has played an absolute shocker in the 2006 GF and now is facing lengthy time on the sidelines after punching Staker in the face.</p>
<p>Prediction: 4 to 6 weeks.</p>TimT commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e6c8df88342008-04-14T04:47:30Z2008-04-14T04:47:30ZTimThttp://willtypeforfood.blogspot.comElementary, my dear Watson Christinson. If you're really an actor in disguise, then what else would your name be?<p>Elementary, my dear <strike>Watson</strike> Christinson. If you're really an actor in disguise, then what else would your name be?</p>os commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e6abff88342008-04-14T03:27:07Z2008-04-14T03:27:07ZosRT, yep we've gone all quiet over here lately. On Saturday, I thought "sod this for a game of soldiers,...<p>RT, yep we've gone all quiet over here lately. </p>
<p>On Saturday, I thought "sod this for a game of soldiers, I think I'll pull out the blue and black scarf and watch the Force play the Tahs."</p>
<p>That was an excellent plan.</p>
<p>Then the bride sat down to watch the Dockers play the bottom team.</p>
<p>Life can seem very empty some weekends.<br />
</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e6854988342008-04-14T02:21:50Z2008-04-14T02:21:50ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/How did you know my real name was Helen Christinson?<p>How did you know my real name was Helen Christinson?</p>TimT commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551d0607788332008-04-14T02:05:00Z2008-04-14T02:05:00ZTimThttp://willtypeforfood.blogspot.comTony, I had no idea that you had a second career in acting!<p>Tony, I had <a href="http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com/2008/04/review-39-steps.html" rel="nofollow">no idea that you had a second career in acting!</a></p>David Barry commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551ced9b088332008-04-13T15:23:26Z2008-04-13T15:23:27ZDavid Barryhttp://pappubahry.blogspot.com/I'm really not convinced that there's much room for improvement in selection methods for Test cricket teams. You go with...<p>I'm really not convinced that there's much room for improvement in selection methods for Test cricket teams. You go with some combination of domestic stats and what you think when you look at the players. Michael Clarke was picked off an average of 36 or so for NSW and did well. Warne was picked off about ten first-class games (and eventually he turned out all right...). Doing well in county cricket means not a whole lot when you play for England (loads of examples). Doing poorly in county cricket doesn't prevent you from playing well for England (Marcus Trescothick averages mid-30's for Somerset but 43 for England).</p>
<p>Moneyball-type analysis could work in the IPL though, when managers will have to start putting dollar values on players. My first guess as to the set-up for this sort of an analysis would be:</p>
<p>- If you've got batsmen who can all average 20-25, then the only important thing is strike rate.<br />
- The important thing for bowlers is economy rate.</p>
<p>Then you start doing comparisons. A batsman whose strike rate is 1 run per six balls higher than another would be worth about the same as a bowler whose economy rate is 0.7 runs lower than another. With all-rounders you'd compare to what would happen if you replaced him with a specialist.</p>
<p>It'd get pretty complicated with the restriction on foreign players distorting the prices. Lots of room for analysis there though.</p>nick commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e4a10d88342008-04-13T12:34:59Z2008-04-13T12:34:59ZnickGood review of a great book - I think the application to AFL probably pertains to the draft, and the...<p>Good review of a great book - I think the application to AFL probably pertains to the draft, and the players to pick from there. Look at the Crows - an aging list, with some past champions (esp McLeod) and a lot of no name players (although Scott will probably correct me on that). The Crows seem to do very well in the regular season for a team with no proven goalkicker (Fevola/Franklin/Brown), poor forward 50 marking (ever since Modra and Jarman left) and only the odd mercurial performance. They then get knocked out in the Finals....by Franklin, West Coast's ruck division etc. Hopefully the influx of $ and a little luck this year will get them through - but I see Franklin has shafted them again. It's a good weekend though - as Port are 0-4 and surely fumbling around for the spoon - they may even pinch it off Melbourne (sorry).</p>
<p>Cricket lends itself to application of the tenets in Moneyball. Calculated swinging at balls in the hitting zone (Hussey/Hayden), calculated zone bowling (Clark), and putting proven Shield/County players (Hussey, Hussey....) in to the Test side over young up and comers (Watto the Magnificent?, Tait?). One of the interesting things about the IPL (and face it, there won't be many) will be watching Warne coach against Buchanan. I could watch Warnie bowl all day - but I'd love to see his face if Buchanan's computer picked team of drones wipe Warnie's Mercurial Lotharios off the map.</p>Bruce commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e48e5388342008-04-13T11:52:32Z2008-04-13T11:52:33ZBrucehttp://dilletante.tenpm.com.auAnd speaking for pre-emptive. WTF was the press conference today about? Talk about full scale spin doctoring and damage control....<p>And speaking for pre-emptive.</p>
<p>WTF was the press conference today about? Talk about full scale spin doctoring and damage control.</p>
<p>I don't know what he is worried about. The incident was 'in play' and only affected Staker temporarily. Another reprimand like in 2005 seems likely to this jaded tribunal watcher.</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e4639e88342008-04-13T10:15:52Z2008-04-13T10:15:52ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/By the way, Prof, generations of pub brawlers have known "anticipatory self-defence" as "getting the first one in".<p>By the way, Prof, generations of pub brawlers have known "anticipatory self-defence" as "getting the first one in".</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551ce423088332008-04-13T10:04:16Z2008-04-13T10:05:47ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/Nick. Moneyball, The Review by Tony T. You must read the comments, many of which are quite excellent. But only...<p>Nick.</p>
<p><a href="http://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/2005/07/ace_on_base.html" rel="nofollow">Moneyball, The Review by Tony T</a>.</p>
<p>You must read the comments, many of which are quite excellent. But only quite.</p>Tony T commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551ce408e88332008-04-13T09:59:44Z2008-04-13T10:07:17ZTony Thttp://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/Speaking of exploded brains: Barry Hall Gold at the YouTube comments page. Ha ha! Fuck those West Coast poofters! ILL...<p>Speaking of exploded brains: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=_dsiuc169_w&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D_dsiuc169_w" rel="nofollow">Barry Hall Gold</a> at the YouTube comments page.</p>
<blockquote>Ha ha! Fuck those West Coast poofters!
<p>ILL BASH THAT CUNT</p>
<p>one punch a he would knock u out fag</p>
<p>your a homo</p>
<p>hahahahahah yeah sick one mate...have a go see what happens</p>
<p>Etc.</blockquote></p>Professor Rosseforp commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551e44ec788342008-04-13T09:32:18Z2008-04-13T09:32:18ZProfessor RosseforpI guess everybody remembers that anticipatory self-defence was thought of by Monty Python before the Yank Defence Forces thought of...<p>I guess everybody remembers that anticipatory self-defence was thought of by Monty Python before the Yank Defence Forces thought of it -- the Welsh art of Llap Goch:<br />
It is an ANCIENT Welsh ART based on a BRILLIANTLY simple I-D-E-A, which is a SECRET. The best form of DEFENCE is ATTACK (Clausewitz) and the most VlTAL element of ATTACK is SURPRISE (Oscar HAMMERstein). Therefore . . . the BEST way to protect yourself AGAINST any ASSAILANT is to ATTACK him before he attacks YOU . . . Or BETTER... BEFORE the THOUGHT of doing so has EVEN OCCURRED TO HIM!!! SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO RENDER YOUR ASSAILANT UNCONSCIOUS BEFORE he is EVEN aware of your very existence! <br />
Barry's claim of a "brain explosion" is a little suspect given that he took one and a half swipes before hammering home the left hook.</p>Nick commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551cda01888332008-04-13T03:22:25Z2008-04-13T03:22:25ZNickIs it a coincidence that 20/20 hindsight and talking out of one's arse are so commonly found together? just finished...<p>Is it a coincidence that 20/20 hindsight and talking out of one's arse are so commonly found together? </p>
<p>just finished reading moneyball (thanks to the commenter here who recommended it). I'm sure john buchanan and neil craig have read it too. If gideon haigh would write moneyball:cricket, it would be a best seller. </p>
<p>if tony wrote moneyball:melbourne...well, that would be a very different book.</p>RT commented on 'PRE-EMPTIVE STEVE'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341cb34453ef00e551cd0d8e88332008-04-12T22:52:09Z2008-04-12T22:52:09ZRTIf it was Adam Goodes he'd get off. Where is all your bloggers from the West of late, Tone? Been...<p>If it was Adam Goodes he'd get off.</p>
<p>Where is all your bloggers from the West of late, Tone? Been very quiet. Eagle got their tongue?</p>
<p>Turned over and watched that Port game. Saying to myself "Get outta here" every time Bradshaw, Travis & co topped their last play in the last qtr.</p>
<p>Demons? Well it is a six letter word beginning with D.</p>