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SBS says the European Soccer champs is actually the 3rd biggest sporting event in the world.

I agree about why footy fans watch Union ... I watch it because it gives an opportunity for us to measure Australia on a world stage.

Finally, Gordon Bray, what a ponce that man is. I just about threw a spak at his faux pronunciations .... "Chillay" for "Chile", "Oooragwuy" for "Uruguay" and worst of all, "Suuubiaarco" for good ol' "Subiakko". I spose he is technically correct, but who in Australia says "Chillay" for god's sake?

Yep. The Euros would definitely be bigger than this Rugger fooferall.

And you've hit on a craggy old hobby horse of mine, Os. Gordon and his brayings. I first noticed it in 1991 when he started waffling on about Western Saahhhhhhhhhh-mor-ahhh. This time round he's got me attacking the telly with the Pooomahs. And not only that, it's spread to the other commentators.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

not to mention Wimbledon...

Ah-ha,now you southerners know what it's like to be in Sydney or Brisbane and try to get an AFL game that finishes earlier than midnight.

Whenever they interview someone about AFL coverage, it's usually someone from Melbourne or Adelaide who shrugs and says that the footy on cable is similar to what's on free to air anyway.

Which of course it is - provided you live in Melbourne or Adelaide. For those of us who don't, the anti-syphoning rules mean that we can't get it on cable, and if the local free-to-air channel decides not to show it, we don't get it at all.

Seems strange to me that the cable people can't show games live that aren't in the city of origin, when free-to-air TV chooses not to cover them.

The first pool games are a farce and even the rugger boys admit it. Georgia v England, Wales v Romania - I ask you. Might start to get an interesting game about Xmas time. (and god forbid England winning!)

Bill Collins calls Melbourne Cups? Jesus Christ.

>>>Formula 1 Championship

>>>Tour De France

>>>English Premier League

>>>Superbowl

>>>Winter Olympics

>>>American Baseball playoffs

>>>Cricket World Cup


No fair! The quote was, "THIRD BIGGEST EVENT IN THE WORLD OF SPORT".

So in my book, it has to be, um, like, an EVENT, possibly? At the very least a "games" or "tournament".

Therefore, you are drawing a *very* long bow by using Formula 1 Championship, English Premier League, and American Baseball playoffs as comparisons.


Otherwise it was a good post!

Chris Handy = Max Walker.

ie. Used to be funny but quickly became tiresome and is now well past his prime.

Special comments men suckablitly is normally directly proportional to their ego. No surprise why Horan is to your liking, then.

And how about Vince Sorrenti on the panel?!!! WTF?!

The whole time he has this nervous demeanour like, "oh God oh God oh God this could be my last chance oh God this is big oh God oh God please let me be funny..."


How do we rate “bigness”?

Can I have my 2c worth and say “bigness” would be = total amount of money sponsors and TV stations pay to become officially involved.

(We could throw in “TV audience” and “actual attendance” into the mix - but hey - this is my fantasy, so let's just stick to the money way of ranking things)

Using that definition, and using my above definition of what constitutes an “event”, I would rank it this way:

1. Summer Olympics
2. Soccer World Cup
3. European Soccer Championships
4. Winter Olympics
4. Tour de France
5. Asian Games
6. Rugby Union World Cup
7. Cricket World Cup
8. Superbowl

Disclaimer: This is just an absolute total guess from out of my ring. I have done absolutely zero research on this and would love to know others' opinions.

Pretty good list except for #6, BR.

Wimbledon's certainly bigger on Channel 9, Boynty. I think it's fair to say it would be bigger anyway. Considering all the countries that don't play rugby but have tennis heroes. Or that DO play rugby but their own countywme wouldn't know it. The USA for instance. I bet in the USA 50 times more people watch Wimbledon that the RWC. The RWC can be discounted as a going concern in at least eight of the countries playing.

Golf would be another area where more people would take notice. The Tigger and all.

Mong - My brother lives in S'Syddey and he's forever complaining about the footy coverage. Not enough, that is. I'm complaining about the RWC coverage, TOO MUCH, that is. And for me at least, I can afford cable, the anti siphoning thing is a rort.

Unca Tim - Time to pare down the field, me thinks. Twelve teams would be enough. These blow-outs are ridiculous. Didn't they learn from the cricket world cup? And as for the commentators breathlessly informing the viewer that South Africa has beaten Oooooooroooooo-g-whyy in a "tough encounter" (50+ to fuck all); give us a break. I don't get turned on when I see winners laughing as they score tries. Reminds me of the bad old days when Channel Seven would bring us a footy "blockbuster" from the SCG - Freo (16th) v The Sinney Pinks (15th) with half the mammoth crowd of 5,000 being schoolkids on freebies.


>>>”Considering all the countries that don't play rugby but have tennis heroes. Or that DO play rugby but their own countywme wouldn't know it. The USA for instance. I bet in the USA 50 times more people watch Wimbledon that the RWC. The RWC can be discounted as a going concern in at least eight of the countries playing.”

But does that make Wimbledon bigger than the Rugby Union World Cup? I don't understand your reasoning.

By your logic, Le Tour de France would be huge in the USA too (which it ain't), considering the amount of out-and-out-heroes they've had in the last 16 years.

>>>”Golf would be another area where more people would take notice. The Tigger and all.”

Granted. But for the SECOND TIME NOW: The quote was about popular "events", not sports averaged out over a year.

James, it's actually another Bill. I was listening to the radio about ten years ago. Greg Evans and Sam Newman were filling in on the 3AW breakfast show. The decided to interview Bill Collins (the movie guy) about some film. They started talking to him about the film and it became obvious to all that Bill had no idea what they were on about. Then they realised they had the wrong Bill. They then asked him if he liked films anyway. Very funny fuck-up.

BR - I think it may be a long bow for the Premier League and the Formula 1 but the rest are series's and thus would count. How about the FA Cup Final then? That's bigger than this rugby brouhaha. And let's go with the Monaco GP by itself and maybe even the Indianapolis 500. And I'll change it to to each Baseball Playoff Series. Go Sox!

Tim Horan wasn't my call, but Leaping Larry L's. But I agree with him.

Chris Handy IS decidedly dodgy! And I was nearly going to do a whole post on Vince Sorrenti. I though comedians were supposed to be funny. And as for Liz "Token" Ellis. Pah!

Like I said, I'd rate the Cricket World Cup above the Rugby cousin because of India. HUGE there! And the Superbowl because it's American so there's a couple hundred million people straight away.


Thanks for your reply, Tony! I’ve only just twigged that you are THE Grog Man. Shame on me.


>>>”How about the FA Cup Final then? That's bigger than this rugby brouhaha.”

I disagree. By my definition, of "total revenue", anyway.

>>>”And let's go with the Monaco GP by itself”

Possibly. You could be correct on that one. Especially if you take into account the black market shenanigans that go on!

>>>”and maybe even the Indianapolis 500.”

I disagree on that one, too.


“Ain't nothing like a piece of pussy… 'cept... maybe the Indy 500.”
--- Pte Bunny, from the movie “Platoon”

Big.R - It's an example of ONE country's demographic. Taking in the game's popularity worldwide, more people would watch Wimbleydon than the RWC. Union is a pissant concern in many of the countries represented. Tennis isn't. Even here in Straya I reckon more people are interested in the tennis and thus make Wimbledon bigger here. Remember, there's really only genuine grass roots interest in NSW and QLD. Down here in the bottom bits it's just garnishing. That leaves only Noo Z'lund, Sarth Efrica, Pomgolia, Urlund, Wales, Hootsland and the Cheese-eaters to substantially boost numbers world wide. There are just not enough people following the game in those countries to outweigh the numbers in other countries that watch other events.

I like to address them on individual merits, Big. I draw no conclusions from the TdF into the USA, but's it's huge in Europe with the numbers that follow it/watch it/sponsor it outweighing those that will follow the RWC.

And because you missed my nuance, namely I was being general and hoping you would extract the point, I was referring to any one of the British Open, US Masters and US Open which would all be bigger/have more viewers/whatever than the RWC. With Tigger alone attracting Beckham like attention from Americans, Asians, Antipodeans and Europeans.

The FA Cup Final from a revenue aspect? Yes. I agree, but not from a popularity one. Soccer BIG. Rugby small.

I tossed in the Indy as a maybe. But like all motor racing it's pretty big. It's got lots of sponsorship what with all those car bits and pieces needing to be made and sold. Not to mention motor racing still gets sponsored by ciggy companies. They chuck money around like there's no tomorrow. Which there mightn't be.


Taking in the game's popularity worldwide, more people would watch Wimbledon than the RWC

Firstly, I disagree.

I'm assuming you're talking TV watchers + actual attendance. (Although, I think the RWC tournament would beat the Wimbledon tournament on both counts, anyway.)

Secondly, I clearly stated my definition of the "bigness" of an event in my 3rd post. I specifically stated that I based it on TV rights and sponsorship revenue, not audience numbers.

Are we arguing about the same thing?


Sorry, that first paragraph in my last post should be in inverted commas (Tony T. said it!)

Maybe not, but sponsorship OR popularity, the RWC is still not in the top five.


Agreed!

Phew, I'm exhausted after scrolling down through all that. I agree Vince and Steve Alessio fronting the Kiwi/Azzuri game was daft, but Vince did make me laugh with his suggestion that Italy (like the Wallabies) ask for an alternative national anthem. He suggested "That's Amore", and went "When you run from the ruck and get hit by a truck, that's a'Maori".

(I am a bear of little brain and it doesn't take much to amuse me.)

Phew, I'm exhausted after scrolling down through all that. I agree Vince and Steve Alessio fronting the Kiwi/Azzuri game was daft, but Vince did make me laugh with his suggestion that Italy (like the Wallabies) ask for an alternative national anthem. He suggested "That's Amore", and went "When you run from the ruck and get hit by a truck, that's a'Maori".

(I am a bear of little brain and it doesn't take much to amuse me.)

Steve Alessio!?

A token wog.

A token wog.

Yes I wish to put RWC popularity into perspective.After a great deal of reseach I believe these "sporting events" to be the most popular in the world:-
1. World Cup Soccer
2. Summer Olympic Games
3.European Soccer Championships
4. Winter Olympics
5. Asia Soccer championships
6. Copa America ( South american Soccer Championships)
7. World Basketball Championships
8. World Volleyball Championships
9. World Athletics Championships
10.Asian Games ( Asian Olympics)
Interseting to note that European Basketball Championships held in Sweden In August had a Chinese TV crew calling the action back home - didn't see any such at "2003 biggest event"RWC! What about Cricket world cup, my study ranks it well above RWC (don't forget India,Pakistan and Bangladesh have 1.3billion people and unlike RWC they actually know and like the game!). Also my study reveals that both RWC regulars Italy and Argentina did not have a commentary team at RWC and thus the TV coverage was in English and on pay TV, how many of the natives would have watched those matches in the early hours of the morning??? The figures put out by IRB are according to my study and absolute lie!!!Most people do not question figures and advertisers love huge stats!

Top work, David. Yep, I made the point about cricket and India/Pakistan etc before. I heard the Channel 7 commentators talking about the numbers watching the rugby on Saturday night. 4 billion watchers apparently. Yeah! Right! Take out India, there's a billion, China, another billion. That means in the rest of the world EVERY SINGLE PERSON is watching it. I wish they'd stop lying, it just makes them look stupid.

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